What's the connection?

Started by UK Decimal +, September 26, 2010, 07:13:01 PM

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UK Decimal +

Can anyone identify the connection between the two subjects illustrated?   There certainly is one.

The connection will most likely be noticed by someone in Britain, but perhaps there are similar connections elsewhere (this is not a clue).

Bill.
Ilford, Essex, near London, England.

People look for problems and complain.   Engineers find solutions but people still complain.

Bimat

May be that train was used to ship those coins..? ???

Aditya
It is our choices...that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. -J. K. Rowling.

UK Decimal +

Maybe, but the answer is something of much greater significance than that.   The equivalent might even have happened in Inda at some time, but I don't know.

Bill.
Ilford, Essex, near London, England.

People look for problems and complain.   Engineers find solutions but people still complain.

Bimat

Railway was introduced here in 1853,your coin is dated 1844.. ???

I have no idea about the other significance.I'm now curious to know!

Aditya
It is our choices...that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. -J. K. Rowling.

translateltd

Was the standard fare a penny in those days?  Or is the lady in the right foreground of the print QV herself?

Bimat

Quote from: translateltd on September 26, 2010, 07:46:55 PM
Or is the lady in the right foreground of the print QV herself?
Even I thought so...

Aditya
It is our choices...that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. -J. K. Rowling.

constanius

#6
The penny is dated 1844 & the 1844 Railway Act required each line to run at least one train a day each way that had a fare of one penny per mile.

Victoria became Queen in 1837, the date of the picture & the date of the first pennies of Queen Victoria.

The Progress of her Majesty Queen Victoria and His Royal Highness Prince Albert, to Burghley House, Northamptonshire, November 1884 they travelled some of the journey by the railway & they left London from Euston station.

"THE ROYAL DEPARTURE 1844.
The Queen and Prince Albert left Buckingham Palace at five minutes before nine o'clock on Tuesday morning, in a carriage-and-four, escorted by a party of Lancers, for the Euston Square terminus of the London and Birmingham Railway"

UK Decimal +

Very good, nearly there.   

One more clue which happens to be in the picture needs to be included (and it's not the ladies).

I wasn't aware of the Royal journey in 1884, and the fact that Euston is mentioned isn't really relevent.

Bill.
Ilford, Essex, near London, England.

People look for problems and complain.   Engineers find solutions but people still complain.

constanius

#8
Covered carriages for the rich, open carriages for the poor.  1st, 2nd & 3rd class passengers travelled in varying degrees of comfort for varying fares?


UK Decimal +

Nearly everything has been covered, more or less.

Anything else before I give the full answer in a couple of days?

Bill.
Ilford, Essex, near London, England.

People look for problems and complain.   Engineers find solutions but people still complain.

constanius

#10
Could it be a 'Ladies only carriage' in the picture & that is the connection, only ladies on the penny, Vic & Brit.
Or could it be the Royal Carriage?  Even though it does not look like the one in the picture.

constanius

The only other connection I can think of is steam-power.  The trains were pulled by steam-powered locomotives & the pennies were struck using steam-powered presses.

Pat

constanius

Quote from: UK Decimal + on October 06, 2010, 09:57:21 PM
Nearly everything has been covered, more or less.

Anything else before I give the full answer in a couple of days?

Bill.

Still waiting Bill :)

Pat

UK Decimal +

Sorry about the delay, but as some of you know, I've computer problems.   I had the answer fully written up, but will give the answer here in a brief form.

It was the 1844 Regulation of Railways Act which required (in general terms) that Railways in Britain which ran a passenger service had to run a train for third class passengers every day (excluding Sundays if the line was closed that day) at a fare of one penny per mile in covered coaches with seats at a speed of twelve miles per hour.   In return, the railway company was not taxed on these fares.

For those interested in railways, the site Railways Archive is very interesting.

Bill.
Ilford, Essex, near London, England.

People look for problems and complain.   Engineers find solutions but people still complain.