Kindly Identify this Indian Silver Coin

Started by Adv. Girish bhambhani, November 22, 2023, 01:13:43 PM

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Adv. Girish bhambhani

Kindly help in identifying this coin.
Weight: 11.30 gms approx
Diameter: 23 mm approx

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Thank you


Although the date (about 1 o'clock on the first photo) is worn it looks like 112(2,3 or4). Much of the writing looks similar to coins of Jahandar Shah, who only struck coins in 1124 and 1125. Not a match, but compare here


The lower photo does seem to show soms similarity with a Jahandar specimen from Surat.
But  what i find most puzzling on this photo: What are those weird(3 or 4?) holes in the side of the coin ?


The holes in the side were made by the staff of a metal dealer/banker, a shroff, wanting to know if it was a fouré.

An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.


Thank you seeker55 for the coin ID:
Dear Girish, your voin in details:
Mughal, Jahander Shah, AH 1124/Ahad RY, Silver Rupee, Bahadurgarh Mint (AH 1124 /1712-1713 AD)
Obverse (First photo): 
"Saheb-e-qirani jahander shah" couplet, reading from bottom to top:
بزد سکه  بر مه چون , Bazad sikka bar mah Chun
صاحب قران جهاندار شاه   , saheb-e-qiran Jahander Shah
بادشاه جهان  , Badshah-e-Jahan
۱۱۲۴  , 1124
Reverse (Second photo):
مانوس  , Manus
ميمنت  , Maimanat
سنه أحد جلوس  , sanah Ahad julus
ضرب بهادورگاره  , zarb Bahadurgarh
Jahandar Shah (جهاندار شاه , ' The Owner of the World'), was briefly the ninth Mughal emperor from 1712 to 1713. He was the son of emperor Bahadur Shah I, and the grandson of emperor Aurangzeb.

Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".


I think that shroff marks in the coin edge are uncommon. In addition, these were drilled or chisseled. That would not produce such a bulging displacement on the coin surface as is visible here ?
Interestingly, looking for coins from this ruler and mint i indeed see some more with signs of marks in the edges.


They do occur on the edge as well. A number of shroff marks are more like counterpunches and are taken to be a guarantee that the coin is not an imitation. However, these holes are more like tests as described.

An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.


A number of coins have marks on the edges but not very many have the punch with a pointed end inserted in to the metal so that the coin may not loose weight. This creates a bulge on the flan of the coin. Not uncommon....

Date is 1124 for sure.

"It Is Better To Light A Candle Than To Curse The Darkness"


I find it far more common on coins of the Princely states, many rupees are small and quite thick and here is an example of a Rupee from Jaipur where a square pointed punch has bulged out the metal, A quick look through some of my trays finds coins from Narwar, Gwalior etc


Adv. Girish bhambhani

Thank you so much Seeker55, THCoins, Amit, Maythem, Figleaf and capnbirdseye for the details and description. Highly appreciated!