Coinage portraits of King Charles III and related changes

[Deeman]

I would not have guessed that was Charles

Agree. A very poor representation.

[eurocoin]

It is interesting that Tower Mint has made 3 different obverse portraits. The first one by Raphael David Maklouf that is being used by Gibraltar. The second by Glyn Davies and used by the British Crown Dependencies, and the third also by Glyn Davies used by Saint Helena and on the unofficial coinage of the Pitcairn Islands.

[eurocoin]

With the new monarch, The Royal Mint has also lost its unique position of being thé supplier of the most important coinage portrait in the world now that the Commonwealth Mint, Tower Mint and the Government of New Zealand will no longer use a Royal Mint portrait.

[<k>]

With the new monarch, The Royal Mint has also lost its unique position of being the supplier of the most important coinage portrait in the world now that the Commonwealth Mint, Tower Mint and the Government of New Zealand will no longer use a Royal Mint portrait.

What do you mean by that? Gibraltar and others didn't use the Royal Mint's portrait of the Queen.

[quaziright]

I thought that was George W Bush

[Big_M]

These alternative designs are rather poor, in my opinion. I prefer the UK portrait on par with the Jody Clark work used on the commemorative pieces for Malta.

[eurocoin]

What do you mean by that? Gibraltar and others didn't use the Royal Mint's portrait of the Queen.

The implications of the decisions of Tower Mint and The Commonwealth Mint to seemingly no longer use a Royal Mint portrait at all, and of the Government of New Zealand to at least no longer use it on its collectors coins appear to be as follows:

Guernsey will no longer use it on its commemorative and collectors coins
Isle of Man will no longer use it on any of its coins
Jersey will no longer use it on its commemorative and collectors coins
Saint Helena will no longer use it on its commemorative and collectors coins

Alderney will no longer use it on any of its coins
Ascension Island will no longer use it on its commemorative and collectors coins
East Caribbean States will no longer use it on its collectors coins

New Zealand will no longer use it on its collectors coins

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There may be some small errors in the info above, but as you can see, in any case a major impact on the significance of The Royal Mint's portrait. And of some mints, we do not yet know which portraits they will use.

[<k>]

Quite an impact, but that doesn't make your blanket statement true:

With the new monarch, The Royal Mint has also lost its unique position of being the supplier of the most important coinage portrait in the world.

Several countries and territories have not revealed their chosen portraits yet.

[eurocoin]

We will have to wait and see. But it is not looking good for The Royal Mint.

One good thing about the many different portraits is that it will now be much easier to know which mint manufactured a certain coin, just by looking at the portrait. The commercial coin companies often do not mention the name of the mint on their product pages. Of many issuers we know with which mint they always work but for some releases it used to remain unclear where they were manufactured. This will now be solved.

[africancoins]

There must be quite a number of factors that can be used as a part of determining or judging the most important coinage portrait in the world...

A few of them...

1) The number of issuers making use of a certain portrait.
2) The number of mints making use of it.
3) The number of people around the world who will often see it in circulation.
4) The number of coins being put into circulation around the world each year with that portrait.
5) The clarity etc.. of the design on the coins that the public see in circulation. (This is the factor for which such as the Tower Mint's 5 Pence 2019 for the Falkland Islands might just score zero.)

We still seem rather short of real coin images of some of the portraits of Charles III.

Thanks Mr Paul Baker

[eurocoin]

As expected, The Royal Mint appears to have made a special obverse portrait for the use on coins of other countries. It was made by artist Dan Thorne. Further details are not yet known. The effigy can be seen below on a 50 dollar coin of Samoa, that commemorates the coronation.

[Big_M]

As expected, The Royal Mint appears to have made a special obverse portrait for the use on coins of other countries. It was made by artist Dan Thorne. Further details are not yet known. The effigy can be seen below on a 50 dollar coin of Samoa, that commemorates the coronation.

Is there any confirmation this one is actually minted by the Royal Mint?
I find the promotional text a bit inconclusive:
"On the obverse features a new effigy of King Charles III approved by Buckingham Palace and The Royal Mint. The left-facing effigy bears a superb likeness to the King and is by Dan Thorne, a leading designer at The Royal Mint who is well-known for creating the reverse of the UK's 2022 Britannia Proof Coin."

[eurocoin]

No, the coin does not appear to have been made by The Royal Mint, which is also not what I wrote. Much rather it looks like a product of The Commonwealth Mint which is also a mint that has previously produced collectors coins of Samoa.

It is the obverse portrait that was made by Dan Thorne for The Royal Mint, at least that is what appears to be the case. I believe that The Royal Mint made this portrait available for use on the coins of the Crown Dependencies, British Overseas Territories and contries of the Commonwealth.

Contact had already been sought with The Royal Mint about this portrait and I will post it here once I know more.

[eurocoin]

Of one of the Glyn Davies portraits, there also exist 2 versions. On some coins they use a version with a very low relief, whereas on others they use one with a high relief.

[eurocoin]

As expected, The Royal Mint appears to have made a special obverse portrait for the use on coins of other countries. It was made by artist Dan Thorne. Further details are not yet known. The effigy can be seen below on a 50 dollar coin of Samoa, that commemorates the coronation.

The Royal Mint has informed me that the coin indeed depicts an official obverse portrait that was made by them. This portrait was exclusively made for use on the coins of the countries of the Commonwealth.

No other official general obverse portraits were made.

Remarkably The Royal Mint was also able to inform me that the specific piece was manufactured in several specifications by the mints Reischauer GmbH and Joly GmbH for MDM Münzhandelsgesellschaft mbH & Co. KG.