Savoye - help with digit 3 or 5

[carpatic]

Hi. I would appreciate your support to determine if this 2 denier piece is of 1783 or 1785.
The 1785 would be very rare and a great find, if it is indeed a 5 what I see.

[carpatic]

A clear 1783 is this one. The shape of the digit is clearly different from the previous one but I am not sure if that's enough for a decision

[Figleaf]

On some denari coins, the date is straight, as in your second picture. On others, it aligns with the edge. On your first picture, the fourth digit is above the third, suggesting a "round" date, but the 1 is below the other digits, suggesting a badly aligned straight date.

I have not found a picture of a less worn specimen of 1785 on the net, but the 1783's all seem to have a straight date. Very tentatively, I would take the coin on your first picture as a sloppily engraved 1783 straight date.

Peter