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Started by UK Decimal +, January 01, 2010, 11:29:33 PM
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Quote from: Rupert on January 01, 2010, 11:35:17 PMAs for the omission of "BRITT OMN", which implied that HM was Queen Elizabeth II of all Britons, I've heard that some Scots objected to it, since she is actually only Elizabeth I of Scotland but Elizabeth II of England. Elizabeth I of England did not ever rule Scotland. What's your take on it, Bill? If that were really the reason, then surely she would have changed her title too.
Quote from: translateltd on January 02, 2010, 12:14:52 AMso the numbering that applies in the "England" component also applies to Scotland with effect from that date.
Quote from: Rupert on January 02, 2010, 12:32:48 AMYou'll notice that that system gives priority to England, which annoys the Scots. Ideally she should be Queen Elizabeth the First of the United Kingdom, which was a new and successor state to BOTH Scotland and England. However, she is rarely if ever given the title of Queen of the UK or Great Britain, but rather of each constituent country. Which doesn't ultimately solve the problem.
Quote from: Figleaf on January 02, 2010, 11:16:56 AMDon't think so. England was not a political unity until after the conquest of Cnut the Great in 1016 (benchmark: until 1016, Wessex was an independent kingdom, afterwards, it was an earldom). If you don't want to include Norman kings, the first Anglo-Saxon king would be Edward the confessor (1066). That leaves only one Edward and a Harold before the Norman conquest.