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Offline mti

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Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« on: January 19, 2021, 01:14:35 AM »
Hello, Hello...!!!  ;))  this my second post, today...!!!
I bought these as Ottoman Empire coins... but I would like to ID these if, at all, possible... I know there is not much to go on with them but we can try...
Coin #1:  2.3g / 12mm / Copper
Coin #2:  0.9g / 13mm / Copper
Coin #3:  1.4g / 13mm / Copper
Coin #4:  0.8g / 13mm / Copper

I have looked on Zeno, but could not find a match, it is possible I overlooked... however, on some of these there is visible text, so that might give us some info...
Also, as in the previous post, I am asking for an online resource about Ottoman Empire coins (early periods of the Empire)  to ID such coins...  so if you know of anything that you might suggest, I thank you already... =))

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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2021, 05:10:36 PM »
coin #1 : try Jani Beg, Khan of the Golden Horde (New Saraï ?)
coin#3 : "Khald mulkh / protect his kingdom" on a face...no more idea...?
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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2021, 11:52:31 AM »
coin #1 :
possibility of "عثمان  Othman" at 3 o'clock and " سلطان  sultan" at 7 o'clock.
in center, :the mintname
could be a mangir of the ottoman sultan Osman II struck at Haleb (Aleppo) ?
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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2021, 03:17:35 AM »
does #2 look like this one https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=258945  ?!?!

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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2021, 10:10:01 AM »
does #2 look like this one
I don't think, on your coin shows rather a trilobe.
I have seen a mangir with this design attributed to Bayezid II's reign.
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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2021, 07:14:59 PM »
where have you seen it...?? I would like to take a look at it (if possible!?!?)... I found a coin with a trilobe but it has no dots around the margins of the coin... and it has three stars on the obvers (it is possible that my coin shows one and the other 2 are just are not as clear...)  and the attribution is to Muhammad II 855-886AH ?!  I don't know... but they look very much similar (picture attached)...

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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2021, 11:02:29 PM »
where have you seen it...??
seen recently on eBay, may be the attribution is not correct ?
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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2021, 11:18:06 PM »
Thank you saro... I found exactly the same thing in Ottoman Museum online... (please, see picture and read its file name)...
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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2021, 09:03:31 AM »
you well spotted it :applause:
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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2021, 12:58:59 AM »
P.S. these coins were struck in Constantinople/Kustantiniyah

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Re: Early Ottoman Empire coins...
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2021, 01:45:49 AM »
Found Coin #3:  Ottoman Empire - Muhammad II - AH863/1458 - Mint: Adrana/Adrianopolis (first European mint of the Western part of the Ottoman Empire)

Two images are numbered #33 and #38... the 38 is the same coin as 33 only undated

Note the orientation of my coin's side is enclosed and is corrected...