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Offline maudry

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Almoravid AR qirat 'Ali b Yusuf
« on: January 03, 2021, 03:00:36 PM »
Hi,
Apparently there are plenty of varieties for this coins.
Album makes a difference without heir, with heir Sir or with heir Tashufin
I would like to know which variety I have here?
I am also impressed how these tiny coins are always well centered and by the quality of the script.
Size: 11-12mm
Weight: 0.93 and 0.97gr

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Re: Almoravid AR qirat 'Ali b Yusuf
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2021, 10:55:05 PM »
They  both seem to be with the heir Tashfin.

I think the top one is http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/almoravids/IMG_5526.JPG, 4th one down in the third column on the Tashfin section of http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/almoravids_silver.htm

The bottom one is http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/almoravids/IMG_5527.JPG, 3rd one down in the 4th column on the Tashfin section of http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/almoravids_silver.htm

I find the Tonegawa site extremely useful for Spanish Islamic coins.

As you say, beautiful little coins

Alan

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Re: Almoravid AR qirat 'Ali b Yusuf
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2021, 10:19:41 AM »
Dear mardry, your two coins detail:
First coin:
Almoravids (al-Murabitun), 'Ali ibn Yusuf, citing Tashfin as heir, AR Qirat, Granada mint (AH 533-537/1139-1143 AD).
First photo:
لا اله الا   La Ilah Illa
الله   Allah
محمد رسول الله   Muhammad Rasul Allah
الامير تشفين   al-Amir Tashfin
Second photo:
أمير المسلمين   Amir al-Muslimeen
وناصر الدين علي   wa Nasir al-Din / ‘Ali
بن يوسف   bin Yousuf
غرنه (غرناطة)   Garna “Granada” (Andalusia, Spain)
Second Coin:
Almoravids (al-Murabitun), 'Ali ibn Yusuf, citing Sir as heir, AR Qirat, no mint (AH 522-533 / 1128-1139 AD)
First photo:
لا اله الا  La Ilah Illa
الله   Allah
محمد رسول الله   Muhammad Rasul Allah
الامير سير   Referring to “ Syr ibn Abi Bakr ibn Tashfin “
Second photo:
أمير المسلمين   Amir al-Muslimeen
وناصر الدين   wa Nasir al-Din
علي بن يوسف   ‘Ali bin Yusuf
-Symbol-    indicating mint may be Ishbiliya (Sevilla).
Syr ibn Abi Bakr ibn Tashfin, was a Berber military commander for the Almoravid Empire. He is considered one the greatest military tacticians that Ibn Tashfin had.

Maythem
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Re: Almoravid AR qirat 'Ali b Yusuf
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2021, 01:33:35 PM »
Super. The Granada mint must have been within the Alhambra complex at that time.

Peter
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Re: Almoravid AR qirat 'Ali b Yusuf
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2021, 09:29:06 PM »
Thanks a lot for your comments on these coins Maythem.

Great link Alan. I have added it to my favorites.