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Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« on: October 20, 2009, 01:52:07 PM »
This is a rupee of Shah Jahan, Multan. RY 1. Please help with the rest of attribution.

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Re: Shah Jahan, Multan.
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2009, 05:28:54 PM »
KM#222.11

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Re: Shah Jahan, Multan.
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 09:01:02 PM »
Very beautiful coin you've got there Amit.

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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 02:17:18 AM »
Wow, Wow, Wow Amit.  I agree with Dietmar totally. 
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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »
Jahangir's influence is quite evident on this stunningly beautiful coin.

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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 06:42:03 AM »
This coin does not seem to have either the AH date or the month on it. Am I correct?
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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 05:44:16 PM »
The obverse has the Kalima-e-Tayyab at top, in three lines, reading from top to bottom, La illaha illallah/Mohammad/Rasool Allah [(There is) No god except Allah (and) Muhammad (is the) Prophet (of) Allah] and Zarb Multan (mostly off the flan) at the bottom. Here is an example showing the complete mint name. The reverse reads, from bottom to top, (Sahib Qiran Sani)/Shihabuddin/Muhammad/Shah Jahan/Badshah Ghazi and has the regnal year, Ahd. From Ry 2 onwards, the ilahi month was also included, as shown in this example. The Standard Catalogue reports two years, AH 1037 and 1038, for Ry Ahd, so I guess the coins did include the year. Perhaps it is off the flan on yours (or well hidden among the flowers!).

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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 10:01:16 PM »
The coin do have a AH date, which is located to the left of the mint name Multan.
On the coin pointed out by Overlord, part of the date (10)38 can be observed to the left of Multan.

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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 10:34:49 PM »
I am a little confused about which side is best labeled "obverse" and "reverse". Is the coin posted here presented correctly or is Overlord's example correct? Is there a conventions such that the Kalima determines heads and the mint is included in the tail position?

Perhaps this distinction was not important to the 17th century man of coinage.
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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 11:00:22 PM »
The convention for obverse and reverse is often arbitrary.
The side which shows the highest authority, would generally be regarded as the obverse.
So generally the side with name of the emperor would be the obverse. If, however, the Kalima is shown on the coin, it is taken to be the highest authority and therefore regarded the obverse.

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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 11:53:48 PM »
Thanks Oesho.  That makes a lot of sense. 
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Re: Shah Jahan rupee, Mint Multan, km 222.11
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2009, 03:27:24 AM »
Thanks a lot Oesho, Overlord and richie for the highly educative discussion.
Amit
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