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Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« on: June 21, 2009, 03:36:10 PM »
37 zloty collector’s coin to commemorate Polish priest murdered by communists
2009-06-16

The National Bank of Poland (NBP) is to issue in October a series of PLN 37 coins in memory of Father Jerzy Popiełuszko, known as the Solidarity priest and the victim of a political murder committed on the orders of Poland’s former communist rulers in 1984.

The value of the coin signifies Popiełuszko’s age at the time of his tragic death. This is going to be the first Polish coin with such unusual value, wnp.pl reports. ‘Our intention was to produce an interesting collector’s item on the one hand, and on the other we wanted to show how young Popiełuszko was when he died’ NBP president, Sławomir Skrzypek, told the Polish News Agency.

Source: Polish market
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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 04:03:16 PM »
Odd. Well, not the denomination by itself - I mean, with such collector pieces the face value can be anything ::) But it seems that the central bank has changed its plans. This piece was supposed to be a 2 zl Nordic Gold and 10 zl silver coin: http://www.nbp.pl/en/banknoty/kolekcjonerskie/plan_en.pdf

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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 04:07:57 PM »
Either just another journalist's misunderstanding or the footnote to your table coming into operation. I am grateful they're not issuing 37 different designs :P

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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 08:46:46 PM »
NBP issues WW II commemoration coins
24.08.2009 14:34
 
The National Bank of Poland has issued a special set of coins commemorating the 70th anniversary of the start of World War II.

The 2 zloty coin is in honour of those who died fighting the Nazis as they commenced their bombardment of Westerplatte near Gdansk. The battle, which started at 04.45 CET on September 1, lasted for seven days with just 182 Polish soldiers fighting the German Nazi advancement.

The 10 zloty coin remembers the carpet bombing of the town of Wielun in the south west of Poland, which began, in fact, five minutes before the attack on Westerplatte on September 1. One of the first targets of the bombing – which killed around 1200 civilians and destroyed 75 percent of the town centre – was the local hospital, despite a large Red Cross symbol painted on its roof.

The 200 zloty coin commemorates WW II president of Warsaw, Stefan Starzynski, who stayed on to fight the Nazis as they advanced on the capital. He organized what was to become the Home Army resistance in the capital, while being allowed to carry on his duties as president of Warsaw. He was eventually arrested by the Gestapo and probably died in Dachau concentration camp in 1943, although his remains have never been found.

The coins will be issued by the National Bank of Poland on August 28. (pg)

Source: Polskie Radio
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 09:15:09 PM »
Noble designs. Pity the poor Poles, trapped between two merciless totalitarian giants.

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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 09:41:57 PM »
Four. Poland was also trampled on by the Swedes and the Ottoman empire, albeit not at the same time. I am not even counting the Teutonic knights and the Austrians.

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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 10:07:20 PM »
Here is the folder (English version) which has some more info, and the other sides of the coins:

http://www.nbp.pl/en/banknoty/kolekcjonerskie/2009/1_wrzesien_1939_en.pdf

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 11:55:58 PM »
This week's Spiegel cover story is about, guess what, "The War of the Germans". It also mentions the brief episode when Hitler wanted Poland on his side, as in "fight with us against the Soviets, and we will guarantee to not attack you for 20 years". But of course the Polish government had just learned (from Czechoslovakia) how much such guarantees were worth. So they preferred the British as allies, and Hitler found a new (temporary) buddy in Moscow. Did you note the map of Poland with the two arrows on the 10 zl coin? One with a swastika coming from the West, one with hammer and sickle from the East ...

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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 10:28:34 AM »
Did you note the map of Poland with the two arrows on the 10 zl coin? One with a swastika coming from the West, one with hammer and sickle from the East ...

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To be honest, no, and I still cannot see them.

Must be going blind in my old age!

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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 10:47:03 AM »
Would this help? ;D



Sorry for the confusion - Peter showed three of the six sides in the initial post, and that "map" is one of the remaining three, depicted in the PDF file I mentioned.

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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 06:24:29 PM »
At least you can, now that both countries are in "Schengenland", go from one city to the other and back without any border checks. Does not necessarily mean there are no tensions, see this http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE57K4K020090821 case of two EU member states. But it is amazing what has changed. In NE Saxony for example there is a beautiful historic park which used to be divided for many years - roughly two thirds are in Poland, one third is in Germany. Nowadays you can simply walk around there, without encountering anybody who wants to see your ID.

And sure, in those years several European countries had authoritarian regimes. Dollfuß and Schuschnigg in Austria, Pilsudksi in Poland, the coups in Estonia (Laidoner), Latvia (Ulmanis), Lithuania (Smetona) ... not exactly democracy at work. But no war and certainly no holocaust either. Similarly you may say that antisemitism in those years was not a "German specialty". But the nazi regime, umm, perfected it and took it from resentment to mass murder.

Interesting by the way that two of the three places referred to on these coins, Warsaw and Westerplatte, were and are widely known here. The nazi government covered them in its propaganda - in the flawed sense of "we Germans were provoked" and all that, but people learned about them. Now the Wielun attack was in a different category; the Germans basically bombed an undefended city. Would not have sounded terribly glorious, and was thus not really suitable for the war propaganda at home ...

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 09:21:11 PM »
And sure, in those years several European countries had authoritarian regimes. Dollfuß and Schuschnigg in Austria, Pilsudksi in Poland, the coups in Estonia (Laidoner), Latvia (Ulmanis), Lithuania (Smetona) ... not exactly democracy at work.

That much I knew. But it's instructive to remember just how common territory-grabbing was back then, and to recognise that all states had/have their good and bad sides. (Apart from Britain, which gained a world empire only by accident, and through being jolly decent to people). Of course disputes still go on - look at Russia and Georgia. Currently Putin is making noises about the Russian minorities in the Ukraine - just the sort of tactic Uncle Adolf used against the Czechs, of course.

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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2009, 09:08:22 AM »
(Apart from Britain, which gained a world empire only by accident, and through being jolly decent to people).
@ MBK,
You should read the Pulitzer Prize winning book "Imperial Reckoning" by Caroline Elkins. It is the untold story of Britain's Gulag in Kenia and a fine example of how "jolly decent to people" the British behaved there. :'(
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Re: Poland honors Father Jerzy Popiełuszko
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2009, 09:44:59 AM »
I agree with Christian that Schengen has worked miracles for many stupidly drawn borders. Unfortunately, imperialist tendencies are of all times, whether it's Saxons beating up Celts, Norsemen beating up Saxons or the dukes of Normandy subjugating the descendants of Celts, Saxons and Norsemen. It's only recently that we are starting to realize the nonsense of it all.

Blaming minorities is also an ancient game and that one is still going on. There's no Schengen for the virulent extremists on the left or the right. Only history to teach us. Meanwhile, the utterly shameful with funny hair and no shame want to set the clock back :-\

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