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Offline Rangnath

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Seljuq falus, Kay Kawus, MWI 966
« on: August 07, 2007, 05:38:48 PM »
3.8 grams   30 mm   copper?

The coin is very well preserved for a copper.  The coin was "found" with a note that identified it with a ruler and date that just do not jive.  I fear I'd throw you off if I provided that information.  I'll give it in a while after folks have a had a fresh look.
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2007, 12:29:19 AM »
Arabic coins... yes, it can be a hobby and it may be frustrating too... but why do I see Amharic writing at the second photographs which should indicate towards Ethiopia??? ???
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2007, 02:01:49 AM »
Someone had already indicated to me that the top word translates as The Sultan. 
While I was scanning through images of Sulatanate coins in the online Fitzwilliams collection, I came to one coin which yelled out at me "LOOK AT ME!"  So I did. 
The script was in the same style as this coin.  And the top word was a match.  There was even a star burst above it.  Unfortunately, the word was "Sultan".  That's fairly common of course.  And the style? A delightful angular Arabic.  Kind of like our Gothic lettering in a way. I'll bet star bursts above "Sultan" are fairly common too.  Anyway, the rest of the coin was totally dissimilar. 
I love Ethiopian coins, but this is not one of them. 
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2007, 09:03:58 AM »
Correct, Rangnath, the script isn't Amharic, but Kufic (see Plant chapters VIII to XIV).

Peter
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 11:26:05 AM »
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 06:04:59 AM »
I took the coin to an Arabic speaking friend, an architecht and calligrapher, who said that he thought that the person who designed the coin was not a native Arabic speaker:  too many careless mistakes, misplaced dots, misspellings.  For example, "Sultan" was misspelled.  The reverse made no sense at all to him. 
While surfing through the Fitzwilliams Museum Islamic coin collection online, I came across a match. The information for the coin that I found was:
   Kayka?us I (1210-19) (ruler)
No mint (mint)

Category   coin
Name   Fals (denomination)
Islamic (Series)
Rum (subseries)
Saljuqs of Rum (subsubseries)

Material/s    copper

Dimensions   image(height): 28 mm
image(width): 28 mm
die axis: 145 degrees
weight: 5.94 g
Date   1210 to 1219
Inscriptions/Marks   1.   design
Position: obverse
Description: Legend in dotted circle.
2.   design
Position: reverse
Description: Legend in dotted circle.

And the coin was:
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 06:10:20 AM »
Well, what do you think? 
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2007, 12:10:30 AM »
Yes, you are completely right, it's a copper fals of the Seljugs of in the name of 'Izz al-Din Kay Kuwas I ibn Kay Khusru (AH607-616/AD1210-1219). Ref.: MWI#966.
Obv.: al-Sultan
al-Khalib Kaykawus
ibn Khusru

Rev.: legend in the name of Caliph al-Nasir (AH575-622)
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2007, 01:01:17 AM »
 I am particularly attracted to this coin.  I love the calligraphy and its ornimentation and its placement on the flan, either by luck or by design, is wonderful.  The patina helps make this coin special.
thanks for the confirmation!
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Re: Arabic coin with a lot of unknown history
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2007, 01:20:19 AM »
Compared to the Fitzwilliams coins, your is in superb conditions. Worthy of a catalogue pic.

Peter
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