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Travancore, 2 Cash
« on: September 10, 2013, 10:51:53 PM »
This is probably a 2 cash...?
Does anyone have any references which contain the weight of these small Travancore coins?

This one is 1.04g, about 10mm



Bought on ebay as "Guaranteed Ancient Roman Coin"
and very nice it is too.
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Re: Travancore, xx Cash
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 10:58:36 PM »
Guess their guarantees are worthless  ;).  Krause, doesn't have any weight information, but according to Mitchiner:

10mm. 1.22gm

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Re: Travancore, xx Cash
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 11:03:42 PM »
Thanks Ram,
this is a bit underweight - but it looks OK.
A little more worn than I'd have liked, but it didn't cost much (and is the first I've seen for sale here)
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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 11:58:06 PM »
Ram, any idea what is written on the obv and reverse...? This is andyg's 8 cash coin, the series seem to have the same legend on all denominations....
The last letter on the reverse legend seems to be the value...in old style Malayalam numbers. I'm guessing rev says " Kasu X"

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 12:19:10 AM »

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2013, 01:48:49 AM »
Mitchiner indicates that it is Malayalam, but it is actually Tamil:

Obv: Date in Tamil - ௯௰௧௵ ( 911 YR )
Rev: Value in Tamil - காசு ௮ ( Kasu 8 )

See http://www.unicode.org/notes/tn21/tamil_numbers.pdf on how the numbers are encoded.  The only problem I have is that the actual date of 911 should be encoded as ௯௱௰௧ and hence I don't see the 100 anywhere.  Even if you assume it is using an Indo-Arabic encoding, then it should be ௯௧௧, but it seems to be using a hybrid version of the numbering.  It is using the 10 symbol, but not the 100...

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 02:02:15 AM »
The other way to read this is to assume there are no 100 symbol (hence 900 is implied) and the actual number shown is really 91.  This coincides with the date mentioned by Andy, so it really is 900 + 91 or 991...

Isn't epigraphy fun  ;D

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2013, 02:05:26 AM »
Thanks Ram that is great information.... much appreciated

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2013, 02:10:51 AM »
991 makes sense.... the Malayalam calendar was started in 825 AD.

991+825 = 1816 putting it right into the Rani Parvati bai era (Regent 1815-1829) to whom this coin is attributed

This is great ... now I have enough info to update the Numista sheet  ;D

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2013, 02:13:49 AM »
Yeah, it is definitely 91 with an assumed 900 in the year.  Subtract one from your calculation as the date of the coin is 1815AD...


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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2021, 10:40:01 AM »
Here the one cash....
A lot of detail for such a tiny coin.
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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2021, 12:19:21 PM »
This one is date Malayalam Era 997. The other coins in this thread are all ME 991

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Re: Travancore, 2 Cash
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2021, 10:23:45 AM »
Thanks very much,  I'd not got around to looking at it properly.

Btw, all three coins in this thread have been bought as "unknown" :)
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