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Aurangzeb Alamgir, AE Dam, Elichpur mint
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:10:40 PM »
This one appears to have  Alam(gir?) badshah, could be either or Aurangzeb Alamgir but the weight is probably a deciding factor at 17.32g & doesn't seem to fit either a Paisa or Dam,  any ideas for this one? Is it yet another Elichpur copper?

17.32g   AE21
« Last Edit: February 13, 2013, 11:08:27 PM by capnbirdseye »
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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 10:05:03 AM »
Aurangzeb Alamgir / Elichpur; similar to Brown 3402-3403 except for theshape (square).
Brown gives the legend :(bottom to up)
obverse : "../ badshah/ Alamgir"
reverse : "falu / elichpur / s /sanah zar(b)/...(date?)"
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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 01:06:07 PM »
Oh no,  :'(  another Elichpur copper to add to my already big Elichpur collection, at least this one is more readable, this one also belongs to Princely states rather than Mughals then ?
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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 02:46:10 PM »
There is no reason to consider this coin as a"princely state", Elichpur was the provincial capital of Berar at the time of Aurangzeb and coins of this mint are well mughal issues.
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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 02:55:01 PM »
There is no reason to consider this coin as a"princely state", Elichpur was the provincial capital of Berar at the time of Aurangzeb and coins of this mint are well mughal issues.

Thank you saro, the only problem here is the weight, as far as I can tell the Paisas of Aurangzeb weigh around  12-14g & my coin is considerably over that at 17.32g, more like a Dam weight but not sure if Aurangzeb issued coins of this weight?
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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 03:34:24 PM »
You are right for the weights of Aurangzeb's dams : +/- 20g for the classical "heavy" std, before he reduced the weight to +/- 13,5g (-1/3) .
The weight control for copper seems to have been not a priority at Elichpur mint...as coins range from 13 to 19,5g
M.Mitchiner shows a round dam exactly as yours (World of Islam n°3279) which weigh 17,5g

(I possess 3 square ex wich weigh : 18,8 / 19,7 /18,1g )

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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 03:37:11 PM »
here is another coin which came in the same lot, this one is spot on for a Paisa at 13.87g , unfortunately although we have a beautifully clear 'zarb' there is nothing else to give a clue on this one is there?
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Re: Shah Alam or Alamgir AE coin to identify
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 03:59:28 PM »
Yes, difficult to give a mint.. ???
"Julus mubarak san(ah).." on the obverse : probably Aurangzeb
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