Nagasaki Trade Coin; Gen Ho Tsu Ho - 1659 - 1667

Started by capnbirdseye, June 28, 2012, 10:54:34 PM

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capnbirdseye

I've managed to identify quite a few from that Northern Sung Website I linked to, I found the symbol at the top on some Chinese coins in KM but not all four on one coin

3.38g  24mm copper or bronze
Vic

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China, cash, emperor Sheng Tsung, era yuan feng (1078-1085), Remmelts 69. Characters: yuan (top) feng (right) tung (bottom) pao (left).

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

capnbirdseye

Thank you Peter, too early for KM so I have a good excuse for not finding it  ;D
Vic

weepio

In the book Cast Chinese coins by David Hartill he states that ths coin actually is of Japanese origin.
The Chinese version should have three vertical strokes on the top of the feng character (right character).

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Do you have a coin with the three strokes? Hartill is a member of WoC. Maybe he can comment on how he arrived at this conclusion. Maybe Remmelts is wrong after all. Good fun, this.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

weepio

I do not have such a coin, I only have those Japanese version.

pingu

Hello,

the coin of capnbirdseye is from Japan.

Nagasaki Trade Coin; Gen Ho Tsu Ho
cast from 1659 - 1667

Unfortunately, I own no Chinese piece. Weepio has properly explained the difference.
There are 2 main variations and countless modifications of it.

The main kinds are: 1-Dot Tsu and 2-Dot Tsu


The differentiation to the chinese coin:

chinese:

japanese:

Obvious Remmelts makes here a small mistake. Possibly he lacked literature for the search which is available Today.

pingu

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An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

capnbirdseye

Thank you everyone, very interesting indeed finding all about these coins
Vic

nguyen anh tu

Nagasaki Trade Coin  ::)

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Congratulations, Anh Tu. Nice collection. Do you also have the Chinese coin that served as inspiration?

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

nguyen anh tu