Muhammad Shah. Rupee. Mint: Dar al-Sultanat (Lahore is off flan at top). RY x8 / AH 111x

[Guillaume Hermann]

This one is of silver of course, 11,4 g, 20 mm. Thank you!
https://www.numismatique.com/forum/topic/24633-identification-monnaie/#comment-122641


 

[saro]

Mughal / Aurangzeb Alamgir
rupee of Lahore "dar al-sultanatLahore" ("Lahore" is off flan at top)
RY x8 / AH 111x

[Seeker55]

Excellent ID, Saro! Building on the Aurangzeb 111x and RY x8, the only two possibilities are 1115/48 and 1116/48 (both listed in Krause, KM # 300.53).

[saro]

Thank you Seeker55, I fully agree with these 2 possibilities

[Figleaf]

@Guillaume Hermann: plaese remember the Xrefs. Thank you!

Peter

[asm]

Mughal / Aurangzeb Alamgir
rupee of Lahore "dar al-sultanatLahore" ("Lahore" is off flan at top)
RY x8 / AH 111x

Excellent ID, Saro! Building on the Aurangzeb 111x and RY x8, the only two possibilities are 1115/48 and 1116/48 (both listed in Krause, KM # 300.53).

The ruler is Muhammad Shah (1131 - 1161) and not Aurangzeb.

Amit

[saro]

Of course !    I mixed with the previous posts...
Thank you for the correction

[Guillaume Hermann]

Thanks to all. So it is Muhammad Shah, regnal year 18 or 28?

[Figleaf]

48 has my vote.

Peter

[Guillaume Hermann]

Muhammad Shah reigned for "only" 30 years.

[asm]

48 has my vote.
Peter

Most likely RY 18.

[asm]

Muhammad Shah reigned for "only" 30 years.

Coins in the name of Muhammad Shah dated RY 31 are fairly well known.

Amit

[Seeker55]

It seems that as a team effort, with input from several of us and a bit of backtracking, the coin has been successfully identified.

On examining the photos in Krause's "South Asian Coins and Paper Money" (2013) it is apparent that the Lahore rupee of Muhammad Shah matches (KM#436.40) while that of Aurangzeb doesn't. I didn't check that carefully enough before.

In Krause are listed the years for this coin 11xx/8 and 1148/18, so I suspect this coin is one of those. I was assuming the third stroke of the 111x was a 1, but with the way the Arabic numerals are made it could equally well be the start of a 2, 3, or 4.

Cross-references:
Zeno https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=274314
Numista  https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108217.html

[asm]

On examining the photos in Krause's "South Asian Coins and Paper Money" (2013) it is apparent that the Lahore rupee of Muhammad Shah matches (KM#436.40) while that of Aurangzeb doesn't. I didn't check that carefully enough before.

The attribution by date should be easy enough but here, unfortunately the date is not there but the rulers name is almost fully on the flan and it reads Muhammad Shah.........

In Krause are listed the years for this coin 11xx/8 and 1148/18, so I suspect this coin is one of those. I was assuming the third stroke of the 111x was a 1, but with the way the Arabic numerals are made it could equally well be the start of a 2, 3, or 4.

In case of date for Muhammad Shah who ruled from 1131 to 1161, the possibility is 113X & 114X. RY's ending with an 8 that match his reign with these dates is RY 8 & 18. Theoretically, 28 would also fit but it would match a 115X.
I think there is a verticle stroke to the left of the 8 and since it has no protrusions to the right, I would assume it to be a 1 making the RY 18.

Amit

[asm]

This is a better match - RY 18. The symbols on the lower part of the reverse also seem to match, confirming that the coin is indeed RY 18. Also attached is the image marking what I read as the date.

Amit