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Design and designing => Coin characteristics => Topic started by: <k> on March 03, 2011, 02:12:10 AM

Title: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on March 03, 2011, 02:12:10 AM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=90367;image)

Three pence, three acorns.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=90368;image)

Six pence, six acorns.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9983.0;attach=87930;image)

Staying on the number theme, how many bees do you see on this Tongan 20 seniti coin of 1975?
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: translateltd on March 03, 2011, 02:42:20 AM
Staying on the number theme, how many bees do you see on this Tongan 20 seniti coin of 1975?

Ua noa!  I'd never noticed that before.

And of course, the Lundy puffin and half puffin of 1929 show the appropriate bird and fraction thereof.

Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on March 03, 2011, 03:07:03 PM
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The Tongan 50 seniti was even more ambitious.

 
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: Figleaf on March 03, 2011, 03:15:02 PM
Excellent! And no, I hadn't noticed before.

Peter
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: Bimat on March 03, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
Tongan 50 Seniti :

What a beautiful coin!  8) Had never seen before.

Aditya
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on March 03, 2011, 05:42:51 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10347.0;attach=87929;image)

Counting down, then: Tonga 10 seniti.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: translateltd on March 03, 2011, 07:17:03 PM
While familiar with that entire Tongan series, I hadn't noticed the numbers of elements on the reverses at all.  I don't think they're much of a help in attributing a denomination, though, as you'd be on for ages trying to count them.  The small numbers of acorns (or dots, or C's) are at least functional as well as decorative!

Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: Figleaf on March 03, 2011, 08:17:07 PM
Somewhat more abstract, but the same idea. Two coins from a very scarce series of patterns of coins for what was to become the Netherlands Indies. On the reaal are 8 dots. Each dot represents 6 duiten. On the 8 reaal are 8 lines, each representing 6 stuivers.

Peter
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on April 22, 2011, 06:21:08 PM
25 fish, 25 markkaa.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: chrisild on April 22, 2011, 06:33:43 PM
Cool! I even have that Finnish coin. But it never occurred to me that the number of fish could be related to the face value ...

Christian
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on April 22, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
But it never occurred to me that the number of fish could be related to the face value ...

Christian

"What good is a brain without eyes to see?!"

Frankenstein's monster in The Ghost of Frankenstein, 1942.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: chrisild on April 23, 2011, 12:18:33 AM
Phh, I don't need twenty-five fish in order to understand the face value of that piece. ;D  That the number of acorns on the 3d and 6d coins corresponds to the denominations, that I knew. The examples from Tonga - very interesting, have never seen those before.

Here is another one. Not only do the jubilee (50 years WWF) and the denomination (50p) correspond, no, if you count the animals and other symbols (except the WWF logo in the middle), how many do you get?

Christian
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on April 23, 2011, 12:25:24 AM
Not only do the jubilee (50 years WWF) and the denomination (50p) correspond, no, yes, if you count the animals and other symbols (except the WWF logo in the middle), how many do you get?

Christian

This was announced in the pre-blurb. At the time I didn't see how you would fit 50 themes on one coin, but the "designer" has cheated by using 50 tiny two-dimensional Microsoft clip-art GIFs.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: chrisild on April 23, 2011, 10:08:01 AM
I am not really fond of the design, but it sure is an eyecatcher ...

Christian
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on December 04, 2011, 03:23:05 AM
Those Australians only went and copied the British threepence, didn't they?

Three stalks for threepence, three acorns for threepence - is that what they used to cost? Not what I'd call a bargain. I've never been to an acorn shop, so I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on December 04, 2011, 03:26:17 AM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5327.0;attach=6446;image)

Three thrift plants for threepence is much better value for money, I'd say.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: izotz on December 05, 2011, 09:20:55 AM
I think you wrote about these in other threads, but not in this one.

India 1 - 2 rupees (1 - 2 fingers)

(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img17/87-331.jpg)(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img17/87-327.jpg)

India 1 - 2 rupees (single / double cross)
(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img17/87-322.jpg)(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img17/87-326.jpg)
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: chrisild on December 05, 2011, 10:21:41 AM
India 1 - 2 rupees (1 - 2 fingers)

Side note: If something like that was done on German coins, the "2" piece would look a little different. :)  We use the thumb and the index finger to indicate the "2".

Christian
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: paisepagal on December 05, 2011, 10:32:05 AM
Side note: If something like that was done on German coins, the "2" piece would look a little different. :)  We use the thumb and the index finger to indicate the "2".

Christian

The Last time, when i was in Leipzig, my friend remarked at the way I gestured "three"
(http://web.archive.org/web/20120605185456/http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/three-fingers.jpg)

and then I asked what the german way was.
(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/265516/265516,1299209071,1/stock-photo-hand-raising-three-fingers-as-an-indication-of-number-72641170.jpg)

never having thought of it before, I wonder why we indians don't do the latter! its obviously simpler
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: chrisild on December 05, 2011, 11:13:15 AM
and then I asked what the german way was.

Zat is not ze korrekt vay. ;D Actually I am note quite sure what is done where, but I learned to not use the thumb when ordering drinks in the US. Usually I use my thumb for "1", thumb and index finger for "2", thumb/index/middle finger for "3", and just before you think this is getting boring, four fingers except the thumb for "4" ...

As for design and denomination, maybe we should include the US Kennedy half dollar too which villa66 just posted here:

For fun, a Kennedy half dollar; the multiple meanings of its stars, anyone?

Christian
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: FosseWay on December 05, 2011, 11:33:24 AM
I would naturally use the first of paisepagal's gestures for three. AFAIK the standard English way of counting with fingers is index for 1, index and middle for 2, index, middle and ring for 3 etc.

Specifically in the British context, though, it is important to show two fingers either with your palm away from you (like Churchill's victory sign), or, if you have your palm towards you, to keep the two fingers together (which may reduce the comprehensibility of the gesture). Showing a 'reverse victory sign', or two fingers splayed with the palm towards you, is offensive (either intentionally or humorously so) -- it's the equivalent of a single raised middle finger in the States, or the 'bras d'honneur' in France/Italy.

Back on topic, Charles II's English small silver of the 1670s/80s consisted of one C for the penny, two for the twopence and so forth (threepence illustrated):

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/2/8/8/4/1/webimg/483543285_tp.jpg)

In a similar vein to the George V threepence and sixpence of the UK, the South African equivalents of the same period and later had three/six fasces:

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39634.0;attach=74120;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39634.0;attach=74133;image)

 
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on August 03, 2012, 12:51:33 AM
Tonga, 1 pa'anga, 1975.    100 date palm trees. Why? Because 1 pa'anga is equal to 100 seniti.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: <k> on January 02, 2013, 02:27:39 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19568.0;attach=30871;image)

Poland, 1, 2 and 5 groszy.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19568.0;attach=30873;image)

Poland, 2 and 5 zloty.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19568.0;attach=30872;image)

The rest of the series doesn't quite fit the theme, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: Gusev on September 06, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
Nepal, 25 rupee, 1985.
25th Anniversary of Panchayat.
Panchayat or Notified Area Council or City Council is a form of an urban political unit in Nepal comparable to a municipality.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: Gusev on November 20, 2014, 04:36:24 PM
Australia, 50 cents, 1977.
Silver Jubilie.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: Gusev on December 09, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
Bagamas, 2$, 1966.
Title: Re: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design
Post by: eurocoin on January 28, 2017, 11:06:49 PM
Suriname, 1, 2 and 4 duit, 1679.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m93/eurocoins/suriname_zps8hguofiq.jpg) (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m93/eurocoins/suriname2_zps5rnut111.jpg)