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Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 14, 2017, 11:35:48 PM
In 2019 Germany will probably issue ten collector coins (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Web/DE/Themen/Briefmarken-Sammlermuenzen/Sammlermuenzen/Jahresprogramme/Muenzthemen-2019/muenzthemen-2019.html). There will be two pieces with polymer rings, five silver and three gold coins.
(DI = Date of issue)

€5 Climate Zones of the Earth
The 2019 coin in that series will be dedicated to the Moderate Zone; the polymer ring will have a green color. Or rather five different shades of green, one for each mint. - DI: 26 September
The regular (unc) version can be had at face as usual; the proof version will be surcharged.

€10 "Air" Series
Next year a new series called "Luft bewegt" (air moves, with the second word being a verb) will start. Three issues, one per year, are planned. Similarly to the €5 coins, they will be made from two different Cu-Ni alloys with a plastic ring - transparent this time - in between. The first issue, scheduled for April 2019, has the motto "In the air". - DI: 4 April
The regular (unc) version can be had at face as usual; the proof version will be surcharged.

Silver Coins
* Grimm Brothers Fairy Tales: Das tapfere Schneiderlein (The Brave Little Tailor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brave_Little_Tailor)) - DI: 16 May
* 100 years of equal voting rights for men and women (Frauenwahlrecht (http://www.dhm.de/blog/2017/09/20/equal-rights-equal-duties-womens-suffrage-in-germany/)) - Note: Women's suffrage was introduced after the revolution in November 1918, but first "practiced" in January 1919. - DI: 17 January
* 100th anniversary of the Weimar Constitution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Constitution) of July/August 1919 - DI: 8 August
* 100th anniversary of the Bauhaus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus) - Note: In 2004 Germany issued a €10 coin dedicated to the Bauhaus Dessau (https://www.muenzen.eu/gedenkmuenze/deutschland-10-euro-bauhaus-dessau-2004.html); the Bauhaus was founded in Weimar and, in 1925, moved to Dessau. More about the jubilee in 2019 here (https://www.bauhaus100.de/en/index.html). - DI: 14 March
* Alexander von Humboldt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_von_Humboldt) born 250 years ago - Note: In 1967 the Federal Republic issued a 5 DM coin honoring Wilhelm von Humboldt (born 200 years ago then) and also his brother Alexander, born ... 198 years ago then. :) So now Alex gets his actual anniversary coin. - DI: 5 September
These five will all be €20 coins (Ag 925), issued at face (unc). The proof version will be surcharged. Each coin issue will be made by one mint only.

Gold Coins
* €20 Domestic Birds: Wanderfalke (Peregrine Falcon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_falcon)) - DI: 19 June
* €50 Musical Instruments: Hammerflügel (Fortepiano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortepiano)) - DI: 20 August
* €100 Unesco World Heritage: Dom zu Speyer (Speyer Cathedral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speyer_Cathedral)) - DI: 1 October (This will be the last coin in that series.)
These gold (Au999) coins cannot be had at face. They will be made by all five mints.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 18, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
This is the design of the "Tapferes Schneiderlein" coin, from the Fairy Tales series. The coin, designed by Marianne Dietz, will be minted in Karlsruhe (G) and issued in January 2019. You can see the tailor, with the flies at the bottom - also note the "7" on his belt - and a castle in the background, symbolizing the kingdom that he gets, along with the king's daughter. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 19, 2018, 01:03:38 AM
The gold coin from the Musical Instruments series will be a quarter ounce gold (Au 9999) piece again. Design by Erich Ott, who also designed the eagle side for all pieces in that series.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 13, 2018, 07:07:08 PM
Here is the design of the first "Air" coin - you see a glider in the mountains. The piece was designed by Natalie Tekampe (image side) and Andre Witting (eagle side). The side with the eagle will be the same for all issues (2019, 2020, 2021).

The polymer ring will be a little wider than the one on the €5 coins. "Size wise" the two are not very different: The €10 pieces will have a diameter of 28.75 mm (1.5 more than the fiver) and a weight of 9.7 g (0.7 more) ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 12, 2018, 07:20:14 PM
Here we have the design of the Frauenwahlrecht €20 coin. The piece was designed by Anne Karen Hentschel. Technical data are the same as usual: silver (Ag 925), weight 18 g, diameter 32.5 mm.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 12, 2018, 07:21:58 PM
And the Bauhaus anniversary coin, designed by Bastian Prillwitz ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Figleaf on July 12, 2018, 09:44:43 PM
FWIW, I much like the Frauenwahlrecht coin's subtlety. It isn't until you study the coin that you realise that some woman wear clothes of the 1920s (the hats give them away), while others are in later fashion clothes (baggy trousers, boots.) There's a notion of solidarity, time, but also of feminine character that is not pushed on the viewer. Maybe it wasn't the designer's intention, but I can also construe a message "the struggle isn't over yet" from the banners and the marching movement.

Peter
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 13, 2018, 03:04:08 PM
May well be so - the motto on the coin (which is not the "100th anniversary" but "100 years") makes that plausible. Some of Hentschel's coins I like, e.g. her Leipzig (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,25028.msg182477.html#msg182477) (2015) and Rostock (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37275.msg253010.html#msg253010) (2018) designs. The Frog Prince (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37275.msg245377.html#msg245377), also from this year, meh. ;)  This new design suggests quite a bit of depth or relief; hope the final coin will look like that too.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 04, 2018, 06:12:38 PM
This will be next year's €5 coin. The theme side was designed by Peter Lasch. (Stefanie Radtke designed the eagle side for the entire series.) Interesting side note:

The German term for "Moderate Zone" is "Gemäßigte Zone". See the s-sharp in the first word? That indicates the preceding vowel ä is long (pronunciation). Now the ß can never be at the beginning of a word, so for a long time there was no need for an uppercase equivalent.

But sometimes people use all caps, in headlines, passports, etc.  So a while ago we got, in addition to the lowercase ß - the uppercase ẞ character. However, the inscription on this coin uses the older GEMÄSSIGTE instead of GEMÄẞIGTE. :)

Christian
Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Bimat on September 08, 2018, 08:03:37 AM
The green color is good, but it's too dark IMO. May be the actual coin will have a lighter shade?

Aditya
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on September 08, 2018, 08:13:16 AM
The green color is good, but it's too dark IMO. May be the actual coin will have a lighter shade?

Aditya


As there are five German mints which means five different shades of green will be coming (I highly doubt they will change that) I expect a variety from light to dark shades. It should be easier with green than orange this year.
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on November 16, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
Talking about colors ... next year's "Weimar Constitution" €20 coin will have a colored center. It shows the black-red-gold stripes which were first used in the early 19th century, e.g. at the Hambacher Fest in 1832. After the 1848 revolution, the colors became the official flag of the (short lived) united Germany. The Prussian dominated post-1871 Germany used black-white-red, but the constitution of the Weimar Republic changed the colors to black-red-gold. (Later, the nazi regime did away with that, but in 1948/49 both Germanies opted for the Hambach/Weimar colors of democracy so to say.)

So this (image attached) will be the Weimar 1919-2019 coin. The edge inscription is "NATIONALVERSAMMLUNG WEIMAR 1919"; the coin was designed by Frantisek Chochola.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: quaziright on November 16, 2018, 01:39:47 PM
Talking about colors ... next year's "Weimar Constitution" €20 coin will have a colored center. It shows the black-red-gold stripes which were first used in the early 19th century, e.g. at the Hambacher Fest in 1832. After the 1848 revolution, the colors became the official flag of the (short lived) united Germany. The Prussian dominated post-1871 Germany used black-white-red, but the constitution of the Weimar Republic changed the colors to black-red-gold. (Later, the nazi regime did away with that, but in 1948/49 both Germanies opted for the Hambach/Weimar colors of democracy so to say.)

So this (image attached) will be the Weimar 1919-2019 coin. The edge inscription is "NATIONALVERSAMMLUNG WEIMAR 1919"; the coin was designed by Frantisek Chochola.

Christian

Very interesting. Do you know if they are using the Canadian RCM colour patent? Or perhaps the RAM ?
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on November 16, 2018, 05:02:53 PM
Sorry, don't know. :)  The press release (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2018/11/2018-11-07-20-PM29-100-Jahre-Weimarer-Reichsverfassung.html) (German) does not say anything about the coloring process or technology ...

Ah, and I forgot to add the second coin that the government announced on the same day - the Alexander von Humboldt piece. Here it is, designed by Carsten Theumer. The design shows a silhouette-style portrait of Humboldt; on the edge you find his motto "ALLES IST WECHSELWIRKUNG". This page (https://kosmos-humboldt.org/en/) for example translates that as "Everything is interaction and reciprocal". The design of the coin tries to reflect that. The media release about that issue is here (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2018/11/2018-11-07-20-PM30-Geburtstag-Alexander-Humboldt.html).

Edit - here is the original (https://www.sammlungen.hu-berlin.de/objekte/rarasammlung/16284/) of the mountain scene, the Chimborazo from Humboldt's "Nature of the Andes". Seems that the positions of the dots next to his signature have no particular meaning; they refer to his idea of things being connected ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on November 16, 2018, 05:10:43 PM
Side note - the German government (more precisely, the Bundesverwaltungsamt (https://www.bva.bund.de/)) used to present not just the winner of a coin design contest but also the second and third best designs. Well, not any more. ??? Whether this means we will no longer get to see them, or whether they will be published elsewhere (coin magazines maybe), I do not know yet.

(Edit) Just learned from an emuenzen.de post that the recent design contest results are not at the BVA website but still online. :) The VfS - Numismatic Office (https://www.deutsche-sammlermuenzen.de/Informationen/Veroeffentlichungen/Abgeschlossene-Muenzwettbewerbe/) now has them. PDF files, with even more info than before, from the 2018 and 2019 contests ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 20, 2018, 03:51:08 PM
Very interesting. Do you know if they are using the Canadian RCM colour patent? Or perhaps the RAM ?

Just checked the latest issue (1/2019) of Münzenmagazin, and the editorial (https://muenzenmagazin.de/heft-archiv/jahrgang-2019/ausgabe-1/2019/duplikat-von-originalverpackungen-von-münzen-weniger-ist-mehr/) merely mentions the Australian Sydney Olympics from the 1990s as a "breakthrough" for colored coins. The article (https://muenzenmagazin.de/heft-archiv/jahrgang-2019/ausgabe-1/2019/die-erste-deutsche-farbmünze.html) about the coin briefly says something about the history of coloring, and mentions the Canadian Mint (2004) in that context but also several European mints. And it refers to the experience that the Berlin Mint (which will produce this coin) has with colored medals. So I guess that they have their own way ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on January 25, 2019, 07:03:52 PM
Here is the design of the 2019 coin from the Unesco World Heritage series, featuring the cathedral in Speyer (in Rhineland Palatinate, added in 1981). See the link in the initial post for more info about the church. This coin was designed by Bodo Broschat from Berlin. It shows the cathedral from outside in the upper part, and its huge crypt at the bottom.

Not sure why this is the last coin in that €100 series, but that is what the federal government decided last year. Speyer included, there are 16 coins* but more than 40 World Heritage sites in Germany. Oh well ...

(* Germany consists of 16 states, but in this case some states "have" more than one coin in that series while others have none. So "all states are done" was not a criterion here. ;) )

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Figleaf on January 25, 2019, 08:12:14 PM
Maybe demand did not meet expectations?

Peter
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on January 25, 2019, 11:23:29 PM
That has not kept the government from issuing them in the past few years. ;)

The mintages of those Unesco €100 gold coins have dropped from 400,000 in the first years to 200,000 (in 2014). Then the figures went down further, with the exception of 2017/Reformation Anniversary:
2015: 163,000 / 2016: 147,000 / 2017: 158,000 / 2018: 135,500

Well, the designs I usually find attractive, but those €100 gold coins are half ounce pieces. Maybe a tad expensive for some? Anyway, mintages of the Austrian €50 gold coins have also gone down. No reason to stop issuing them though ...

So maybe the German government plans a new €100 series as from 2020. Will keep you posted.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 25, 2019, 11:08:59 AM
The German Numismatic Office (VfS) has just published more details about the gold coins to be issued this year. For the first two (€20, €50) we now also know the prices. All gold coins will be made by all five mints (A, D, F, G, J). The €20 and €50 coins can be pre-ordered from the VfS between 4 April and 16 May.

€20 (Domestic Birds series)
Date of issue: 19 June
Price: 194.86 euro
Weight: 3.89 g (Au 999.9)
Diameter: 17.5 mm
Mintage: 175,000 max
Design: Bodo Broschat (instrument side), Adelheid Fuss (eagle side of the entire series*)
Edge: milled

€50 (Musical Instruments series)
Date of issue: 20 August
Price: 339.87 euro
Weight: 7.78 g (Au 999.9)
Diameter: 22.0 mm
Mintage: 150,000 max
Design: Erich Ott
Edge: milled

€100 (Unesco World Heritage series)
Date of issue: 1 October
Price: (tba)
Weight: 15.55 g (Au 999.9)
Diameter: 28.0 mm
Mintage: 175,000 max
Design: Bodo Broschat
Edge: milled

(* That is also why, in the attached image, the eagle side is dated 2016. This year's coin will of course have the 2019 date ...)

Christian
Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Bimat on April 20, 2019, 09:54:01 AM
Quote
€10 "Air" Series
Next year a new series called "Luft bewegt" (air moves, with the second word being a verb) will start. Three issues, one per year, are planned. Similarly to the €5 coins, they will be made from two different Cu-Ni alloys with a plastic ring - transparent this time - in between. The first issue, scheduled for April 2019, has the motto "In the air". - DI: 4 April

Christian,

Can you confirm if the 5 coins from the 5 mints have the different shade of polymer ring, just like the €5 coins? Or is the color same for all?

Aditya
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 20, 2019, 02:28:17 PM
Have not received mine so far, but according to the Numismatic Office transparent means just that, not various grades of transparency. :)  So the appearance should, apart from the mintmark, be the same for each mint. Have not read anything different from those who already have their coins ...

Christian
Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Bimat on April 20, 2019, 03:53:05 PM
Have not received mine so far, but according to the Numismatic Office transparent means just that, not various grades of transparency. :)  So the appearance should, apart from the mintmark, be the same for each mint. Have not read anything different from those who already have their coins ...

Thanks Christian, that sounds good. :) Just a single coin from any of the mint will do for me...(the unc set of 5 costs anywhere between €70-€80)

Aditya
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on April 20, 2019, 08:08:51 PM
€10:
At the moment, I have four out of five mint-marks in my collection.
The polymer ring is the same for all the four mints. I am sure the fifth (mint-mark ''D'') will be the same.
Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Bimat on April 21, 2019, 08:14:30 AM
€10:
At the moment, I have four out of five mint-marks in my collection.
The polymer ring is the same for all the four mints. I am sure the fifth (mint-mark ''D'') will be the same.

That's excellent news for me, thanks for the confirmation! :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 29, 2019, 07:28:07 PM
Some more info about that colored €20 coin. According to the latest issue (4/2019 Jul-Aug, article in German) of Münzen Magazin (https://muenzenmagazin.de/heft-archiv/jahrgang-2019/ausgabe-4/2019/jetzt-kommt-farbe-in-die-sammlung.html), the Weimar Constitution pieces will be made using Tampondruck (pad printing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pad_printing)), and the mint in Berlin that makes this issue has some experience with similar medals. They have and use a few Morlock MKM 80.3 pad printing machines ...

Christian
Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Bimat on July 02, 2019, 08:36:25 AM
Thanks Christian, that sounds good. :) Just a single coin from any of the mint will do for me...(the unc set of 5 costs anywhere between €70-€80)

It may sound strange but I managed to get the complete set for a reasonable price! :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 02, 2019, 10:22:54 AM
So yours all have a green polymer ring? ;D Nice set!

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on August 09, 2019, 08:00:09 PM
I got these two from my local Kreissparkasse today. They are from a roll the teller had opened a few minutes earlier.
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 10, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
Lucky you! Would they give them to clients only or to all comers?

Peter
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on August 10, 2019, 08:25:26 PM
Lucky you! Would they give them to clients only or to all comers?

Peter

Honestly, I don't know how my Kreissparkasse handles dispensing the €20 NCLT coins.
I am a customer and the cashiers in both branches that offer the coins know me as a collector by now.
I can tell you though that the polymer-ringed €5 and €10 coins are for customers (clients) only. If the teller doesn't know you, you have to show your bank/debit card. If you haven't one of the Sparkasse you didn't get a polymer-ringed coin.
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 16, 2019, 01:33:00 PM
I got these two from my local Kreissparkasse today. They are from a roll the teller had opened a few minutes earlier.

We all know that coins should usually not be cleaned, or by cautious and experienced collectors only. Well, in this case we need to be particularly careful. Just read in a German forum that somebody who had also picked a loose piece up at a local bank, wanted to get rid of the bank clerk's fingerprints ... and now the color is gone. :-\ He had used Softasept, which is basically alcohol (for disinfection) and which had worked for him before, with color coins from other countries.

Not in this case though; the black-red-gold is gone. He also posted an image (https://www.emuenzen.de/forum/threads/20-euro-zerstoert.92980/#post-1118200) of his "monocolor" coin; not sure though whether non-members can see images over there. Anyway, stay away from alcohol. ;)

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Figleaf on October 16, 2019, 10:21:20 PM
Even worse, you don't have to waste alcohol on fingerprints. Fingerprints consist of fatty substances, so - as long as they haven't tainted metal yet - they should dissolve without a trace in lukewarm soapy water. Now don't get me wrong, I have no idea if the paint is soap-resistant!

Peter
Title: Germany: 2019 Collector Coins
Post by: Bimat on June 15, 2020, 03:57:25 PM
This will be next year's €5 coin. The theme side was designed by Peter Lasch. (Stefanie Radtke designed the eagle side for the entire series.) Interesting side note:

The German term for "Moderate Zone" is "Gemäßigte Zone". See the s-sharp in the first word? That indicates the preceding vowel ä is long (pronunciation). Now the ß can never be at the beginning of a word, so for a long time there was no need for an uppercase equivalent.

But sometimes people use all caps, in headlines, passports, etc.  So a while ago we got, in addition to the lowercase ß - the uppercase ẞ character. However, the inscription on this coin uses the older GEMÄSSIGTE instead of GEMÄẞIGTE. :)

Christian

Received the complete set of 5 coins from 5 mints, beautiful coins as usual!

Now looking forward to the 2020 issue. 8)

Aditya