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Research and reference => Numismatics => Topic started by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:30:29 PM

Title: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
Hello,

I read on WOC a topic about "Known single piece coins" here http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,26952.0/topicseen.html (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,26952.0/topicseen.html)
I think it will be also interesting to mention the unknown (or suspected as) single coins

I will post here some possible single piece coins, please do the same.
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
Afghanistan, Ghazni mint Paisa KM 963
The Krause plate specimen has been sold by Stephen Album and I never saw any after
Auction 6 lot 440
http://db.stevealbum.com/php/home.php?site=2&lang=1&cust=0
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
Bhaunagar Dokda KM 1
Krause plate specimen sold on Ebay
See also this topic http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37573.msg237832.html#msg237832 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37573.msg237832.html#msg237832)
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:38:05 PM
Cambay Rupee Y 10 AH1317
Krause plate specimen sold by Stephen Album
Auction 21 lot 1235
http://db.stevealbum.com/php/home.php?site=0&lang=1&cust=0
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:41:29 PM
Dewas Paisa KM 13 dated 1943 (unrecorded date)
See also this topic http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8251.0.html (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8251.0.html)
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Tonk Rupee Y 15 Sironj mint dated 1298 (unrecorded date)
See that topic http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,32485.msg205180.html#msg205180 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,32485.msg205180.html#msg205180)
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 26, 2017, 06:47:51 PM
The last is not a coin but a trial strike of Tannu Tuva 20 Kopeek stroke in aluminium, plain edge weight 1.41 g
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: asm on April 27, 2017, 03:48:35 AM
Bhaunagar Dokda KM 1
Krause plate specimen sold on Ebay
See also this topic http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37573.msg237832.html#msg237832 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37573.msg237832.html#msg237832)
This is a weight and not a coin. One of the many blunders of KM. The states had lost minting rights in 1893 AD and in fact, Bhaunagar had stopped minting (after an agreement with the British) in 1840 AD. The 'coin' is dated 2005 which would make it a post independence era 'coin'. Even the last 'Jai Hind' Kori of Kutch is dated 2004 (1948 AD).

Amit
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: Figleaf on April 27, 2017, 12:49:17 PM
If that's a trial strike either the press urgently needed maintenance or the coin was severely mis-handled after striking. In addition, the black goo suggests either a filthy press or circulation. Spectacular piece, though.

Peter

The last is not a coin but a trial strike of Tannu Tuva 20 Kopeek stroke in aluminium, plain edge weight 1.41 g
Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: MORGENSTERNN on April 27, 2017, 04:01:32 PM
If that's a trial strike either the press urgently needed maintenance or the coin was severely mis-handled after striking. In addition, the black goo suggests either a filthy press or circulation. Spectacular piece, though.

Peter

Hello Peter,

The black goo are in fact little holes on the flan (porous flan).
I think they may have use some bad quality aluminium flan in the mint in order to check the alignment before strike the normal coins (the alignment of this coin is medal strike but Numista indicate that it should be coin alignment).
 
So it maybe a test token rather than a trial strike but I don't really know the difference...

Title: Re: Unknown single piece coins
Post by: Figleaf on April 27, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
OK, I can see that many black spots are indeed holes. They remind me of Frederick Bailey, writing in Mission to Tashkent (https://books.google.fr/books/about/Mission_to_Tashkent.html?id=IiV_mRvsj_QC&redir_esc=y) that around 1918, the Bolsheviks wanted statues for their heroes but found that metal was scarce. What they could come up with soon fell apart when exposed to the elements. Still, the deep scratches on the value side and the "file" scratches on the opposite side are hard to explain.

Peter