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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Mughal central government => Topic started by: Overlord on November 30, 2008, 10:23:47 AM

Title: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Overlord on November 30, 2008, 10:23:47 AM
This is my first attempt at "reading" an Ilahi coin. Please correct me if I have got anything wrong.

Obverse
Allahu Akbar Jalla Jalalahu (God is great, bright is his glory)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/amitvyas03/IMG_5636.jpg)

Here is a crude illustration depicting my take on the legend:
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/amitvyas03/IL1.jpg)

What do the words "Jalla" and "Jalalahu" mean individually?

Reverse
Zarb Ahmadabad (40 or 46), Ilahi Mihr (Libra)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/amitvyas03/IMG_5638.jpg)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/amitvyas03/IL2.jpg)
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46,
Post by: shariqkhan on November 30, 2008, 11:14:04 AM
Correct !
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Rangnath on November 30, 2008, 09:18:42 PM
WOW Overlord!  Have you compiled all of your efforts?  If you haven't, I'll start doing so.  I think this stuff is really cool!
richie
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Overlord on December 01, 2008, 04:38:56 PM
Thanks Shariq and Richie.

Could anyone please tell me what the words "Jalla" and "Jalalahu" mean individually?
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Rangnath on December 01, 2008, 05:06:58 PM
Thanks to Richard Plant and "Arabic Coins and how to read them", Jalla means Glorified. Jalalahu means Glory to Him.
richie
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Overlord on December 01, 2008, 05:17:09 PM
Thanks to Richard Plant and "Arabic Coins and how to read them", Jalla means Glorified. Jalalahu means Glory to Him.
richie
Thanks Richie. Then how does the phrase "Jalla Jalalahu" translate to "bright is his glory"?
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Rangnath on December 01, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
I was afraid that you would ask that Overlord!
Maybe because "Bright is His Glory" sounds better in English than "Glorified is His Glory"?
HELP!
I think we need someone who knows Arabic to answer this.
richie
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Overlord on December 01, 2008, 05:58:53 PM
"Glorified is His Glory"?
richie
That actually sounds like an insult, doesn't it  ;D?
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Oesho on December 01, 2008, 09:51:05 PM
In the thirtieth year of his reign a change, which had been long foreshadowed, showed itself in Akbar and on his currency. He began to date his coins from the first year of his reign, and this new era was called the ilahi. or Divine Era. The inference was that Akbar's person was also divine, and a new creed was invented, which henceforth appeared on his coins. It was a short one Allahu Akbar Jalla Jalala Which would translate as: God is most great, eminent is His glory. but the same words slightly rearranged can mean Akbar is God, let His brightness shine forth.
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46,
Post by: Figleaf on December 01, 2008, 10:30:07 PM
Stunning. This latter-day Tut Ankh Amon tried to hijack islam, one of whose basic tenets is that there is one god only. I'd realized Akbar wanted religious independence from the Khalifat, but this is jaw-dropping.

Peter
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Rangnath on December 01, 2008, 10:55:40 PM
If I had been one of Akbar's advisors, I don't know if I would have had the courage to tell him that he might be making a mistake. How does one correct One who's brightness is shinning forth?
richie
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Overlord on December 02, 2008, 04:31:16 PM
If I had been one of Akbar's advisors, I don't know if I would have had the courage to tell him that he might be making a mistake. How does one correct One who's brightness is shinning forth?
richie
I'm sure Birbal would have found a way to make him realize that, if he wanted to.
Title: Re: Rupee of Akbar (AH963-1014/AD1556-1605), mint Ahmadabad, Ilahi yr 40 or 46, Mihr
Post by: Rangnath on December 02, 2008, 04:41:21 PM
Perhaps that's why Akbar didn't promote himself to the stature of divinity until after Birbal's death!
richie