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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Mughal central government => Topic started by: asm on August 31, 2012, 12:08:00 PM

Title: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: asm on August 31, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
Alam is clearly seen and I believe I can see a part of the Shah to the right of it.........but am not sure. Please help attribute this copper coin.

Amit
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: asm on September 03, 2012, 01:22:46 PM
Looking to how Shah Alam is written on this coin (http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=79146), I am now sure this is a coin of Shah Alam. Mint, with the coin in hand clearly reads Surat. So I presume the coin is Shah Alam Bahadur, Surat. Am I correct?

Amit

 
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: Oesho on September 03, 2012, 04:11:29 PM
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So I presume the coin is Shah Alam Bahadur, Surat. Am I correct?
May be or may be not. There is very little material to compare it with. The style looks more later and in that case it may be also Shah Alam II.
Just a suggestion, compare it with the copper coins of Ahmadabad in the name of Muhammad Akbar II. On these coins also the be of badshah is placed within the loop of seen of Falus. So this may be an earlier issue in the name of Shah Alam II and of Ahmadabad mint.
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: asm on September 04, 2012, 07:39:28 AM
The coin weighs 20.16g. So a Dam. Will check for coins of Ahmedabad but as I said, I could see traces of the mint name which look like Surat rather than Ahmedabad.......but I will check. Also, it appears that I need to photograph some of these coins rather than scan them to get a better image.

Amit
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: asm on September 17, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
I attach larger pictures and one on which I have tried my hand......trying to follow Overlord and Tariq.......

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/Ahmedabad%20Coin%20Fair%202012/ShahAlamr.jpg)

My reading of things...........

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/Ahmedabad%20Coin%20Fair%202012/ShahAlamrcopy.jpg)

Is it now easier to make an attempt at attributing this one?

Amit
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: asm on January 07, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
Can the above coins be confirmed to Alamgir II as mentioned in the following links? I am not able to see anything beyond the Alam on any of the coins in the link below..........

Alamgir II Surat - 1 (http://www.ebay.in/itm/ALAMGIR-II-1-DAM-AD-1754-59-SURAT-MINT-RARE-/380548164441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item589a702b59)

Alamgir II Surat - 2 (http://www.ebay.in/itm/ALAMGIR-II-1-DAM-AD-1754-1759-SURAT-MINT-UNCOMMON-/380548823444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item589a7a3994)

Alamgir II Surat - 3 (http://www.ebay.in/itm/ALAMGIR-II-1-DAM-AD-1754-1759-SURAT-MINT-RARE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/380548835669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item589a7a6955)

Alamgir II Surat - 4 (http://www.ebay.in/itm/ALAMGIR-II-1-DAM-AD-1754-1759-SURAT-MINT-RARE-/281046865474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item416fb2d642)

Amit
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: Oesho on January 07, 2013, 02:58:09 PM
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Can the above coins be confirmed to Alamgir II as mentioned in the following links?
In my opinion they all read Shah Alam (II).
For comparison I have attached a copper coin of Alamgir II, but of Ahmadabad mint. The fabric and design of the coins is identical. The weight of this coin is 13.93 g.
Title: Re: Alam........is it Alamgir, Shah Alam or Aurangzeb. Please help attribute.
Post by: asm on January 08, 2013, 09:58:07 AM
Dear Oesho,

Thank you very much for the reply. However, the coin weighs over 20g. Were dams of this weight standard issued during the rule of the later Mughals or by the States?

Amit