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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Mughal central government => Topic started by: saro on April 01, 2012, 09:46:48 AM

Title: Jahangir, AE Dam, Deogiri mint, Liddle type C-2
Post by: saro on April 01, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
This dam weighs 20,43g and is dated "yr.4" (in "S" of falus), unfortunately the reverse isn't very clear and the mintname is cut; not sure that what is after the "wao" is a letter or an ornament ?.."zarb" in center and may be a date is at bottom?
It seems to be of the same type and mint as the one I posted recently (on march 16th).
All suggestions will be welcome  :)
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: Oesho on April 02, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
The date on this piece will be AH102(8 or 9)/Ry.14.
The mint is a bit more problematical. 'Surat'? There is no issue of Jahangir of this mint, for comparison.
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: saro on April 02, 2012, 05:33:06 PM
Dear Oesho, many thanks for your help! I haven't think to "Surat" as I thought, as you, that it wasn't a mint of Jahangir, and I discover now that this mint is reported (only for copper) by C.R. Singhal (Mint-Towns of the Mughal Emperors of India / 1953) and by Dilip Rajgor in his booklet "Collector Guide to Mughal Coins".
That would be pleasant.. but the mintname is really too cut here and I am afraid that I have to wait for another dam of this mint to have confirmation by comparison..
 
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: Overlord on January 23, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
To me, this seems very similar to Deogiri (Liddle type C-2). RY 4 enclosed in "Seen" of "Falus"?
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: saro on January 23, 2013, 11:02:34 PM
Thank you very much dear Overlord, the new and awaited Liddle's book is opening new horizons...
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: Overlord on January 25, 2013, 05:21:30 AM
Here is the entry for comparison:

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/Deogiri_zps367e7684.jpg)
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: Overlord on January 26, 2013, 05:57:34 AM
Another specimen, RY 14.

Mass=20.4 g

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/DK_zps952d1e73.jpg)

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/DK-Des_zps2fcb316e.jpg)
Title: Re: Jahangir : which mint for this dam?
Post by: saro on January 26, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
Many thanks ! it's clear for this new mint.
I think now that my coin (at up of this thread) is too dated 14 and not 4, what I took for the vertical end of the sin of "falus" is better the "1" of 14
Title: Re: Jahangir, AE Dam, Deogiri mint, Liddle type C-2
Post by: Overlord on November 02, 2014, 04:01:25 PM
Again, Kotri. Deogiri is an incorrect reading.
Title: Re: Jahangir, AE Dam, Deogiri mint, Liddle type C-2
Post by: saro on November 02, 2014, 08:44:45 PM
same : on few coins there is something else before "K" of Kotri ???
Title: Re: Jahangir, AE Dam, Deogiri mint, Liddle type C-2
Post by: Oesho on November 03, 2014, 12:09:49 AM
Another suggestion: Udaipur.
Title: Re: Jahangir, AE Dam, Deogiri mint, Liddle type C-2
Post by: Overlord on November 03, 2014, 02:27:37 AM
Another suggestion: Udaipur.
I think this is the variety where the mint name appears above "zarb" with "ye" at the end of the mint-name forming the divider. How would the "ye" above "zarb" fit with "Udaipur"   ???