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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Mughal central government => Topic started by: asm on March 25, 2012, 06:32:05 AM

Title: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dar al-Khilafat Lucknow, AH 986 & AH 995 Ref: KM#28.37
Post by: asm on March 25, 2012, 06:32:05 AM
Looks like a Dam of Dogaon Mint of Akbar. Please help full attribution. Year AH 986 is quite clear.

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/Delhi%20Exhibition%202012/15.jpg)

Amit

EDIT: Changed the picture with a better scan on 28 March '12
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: akona20 on March 25, 2012, 06:47:21 AM
Well the reverse is

Hashtad
Nohsad O
Sanat Fe
986

Obverse

I can see Falus but the colours then stuuf my eyes.

Zarb is missing from the bottom

but from memory it should say

Dar-ul-Khalifat
Falus
Dogoan
Zarb

See what someone who cn see can make of the rest.
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: asm on March 25, 2012, 06:57:21 AM
Thanks Arthur. Meanwhile another similar one but AH 995 or is it 999? Surely Dar al Salam?

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/Delhi%20Exhibition%202012/11.jpg)

Amit

EDIT: Changed the image on 28 March '12
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: akona20 on March 25, 2012, 07:04:36 AM
Sorry Amit too much green on brown for my eyes at present on the obverse. The date is debatable.
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: asm on March 28, 2012, 07:47:43 AM
Can some one now (with the replaced images) read the legend? Top coin (dated AH 986) is, I believe, Dar al Khilafat. The lower coin AH 995 or most likely 999 is Dar al Salam? Any Idea when the epithet changed? On Zeno the coin AH 984 is with Dar al Khilafat while 988 and later are Dar al Salam............

Amit
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: Ansari on March 28, 2012, 09:11:48 PM
Amit ji as u have said, top one is Dar-Al-khilafah.
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: Ansari on March 28, 2012, 09:36:54 PM
Second one ........Dar Al-Islam
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: asm on May 26, 2012, 02:48:58 PM
Does the date read AH 999 or is it 995? Epithet to me looks to read more Khilafat than Salam / Islam?

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/Delhi%20Exhibition%202012/11AkbarDogaon.jpg)

Amit
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: akona20 on May 26, 2012, 02:59:10 PM
Khalifat I believe on a hard look. Hmmm for the date.
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: saro on May 26, 2012, 03:31:43 PM
 Dear asm, I'll try to use your method for cleaning copper coins, it's surprising according to your result!

According to the date, I have a preference for "995" as the two first "9"  are a little sharper (at top) than the 3rd digit.

It's a real question : "why on mughal coins, dates or legends are always cut at the wrong place? was is only to worry 21th century numismatists?? :D"....

Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dogaon (Epithet?), AH 986 Ref: KM#28.1?
Post by: Oesho on May 26, 2012, 04:33:39 PM
Dear All, the mint name is not Dogaon, Dar al-Khilafat, but Lucknow (http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=79884)
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Dogaon, AH 986 KM#28.18 & Lucknow AH 995 KM#28.37 Dar al Khilafat le
Post by: asm on May 27, 2012, 03:20:15 AM
Dear Oesho,
The cleaning clearly has helped better identification of the coin and thank you for pointing out the correct mint name. Saro and Arthur thank you for the help. .....and Overlord, thanks for getting this one .......

Amit
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dar al-Khilafat Lucknow, AH 986 & AH 995 Ref: KM#28.37
Post by: asm on May 27, 2012, 02:04:12 PM
Well the other one too looks like it is Lakhnow.............

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/Delhi%20Exhibition%202012/13AkbarLakhnow.jpg)

Please confirm.

Amit
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dar al-Khilafat Lucknow, AH 986 & AH 995 Ref: KM#28.37
Post by: Ansari on May 28, 2012, 09:18:20 AM
Ji Amitjee Its Lucknow!!

You can clearly see the difference cleaning can do wrt identification.
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dar al-Khilafat Lucknow, AH 986 & AH 995 Ref: KM#28.37
Post by: akona20 on May 28, 2012, 09:46:39 AM
On this coin yes Laknau but still Dar ul Khalifat.
Title: Re: Akbar, Dam, Mint: Dar al-Khilafat Lucknow, AH 986 & AH 995 Ref: KM#28.37
Post by: asm on May 28, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
Dear Tariq, thanks for the reading of the coin.
Dear Akona, Both coins are having Dar al-Khilafat. Lukhnow as the mint name. To the best of my knowledge, Lukhnow never used Dar al-Islam / Salaam as an epithet.

Amit