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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Mughal central government => Topic started by: asm on July 03, 2011, 11:49:19 AM

Title: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.06
Post by: asm on July 03, 2011, 11:49:19 AM
I was recently offered this large (25mm) flanged, rupee of Aurangzeb, minted at Akbarabad. The date looks AH 1106, RY 39. I had some difficulty reading the date. The mint epithet : Mustakir al Khilafat?

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l628/asm2110/AurangzebAkbarabad.jpg)

Amit
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.02
Post by: akona20 on July 03, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
Mint and epithet are correct and to me your dates look correct.
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.02
Post by: asm on July 03, 2011, 04:54:29 PM
I asked this question as I was sold this coin with the date 1078 RY 9 mint epithet Mustakir al Khair.

Amit
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.02
Post by: akona20 on July 03, 2011, 10:57:51 PM
As I am going through a pretty steep learning curve here myself perhaps another opinion might be wise.
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.06
Post by: asm on July 04, 2011, 03:55:14 AM
Comparing this one with this (http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=30550) coin it is clear that the coin has Mustakir al Khilafat epithet.

However the comparison brings me to another question. The coin on Zeno has a heart shaped figure above the 'Gaaf' in the name of Aurangzeb. Another similar dated coin  (http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=24746&cat=3752) also has a similar looking mark. The coin I have posted above has a different mark? Any possible reason?

Amit
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.06
Post by: akona20 on July 04, 2011, 04:44:20 AM
Interesting question and there are a number of possibilities. One is, of course, the die cutter exercised a little poetic licence in his work. Another is that they were produced in month 5 (a wild speculation). And another is that they represented the mark for a spcial production of coins.

Sorry but I have no real answers.
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.06
Post by: asm on July 04, 2011, 06:42:20 AM
........and there are a number of possibilities. One is, of course, the die cutter exercised a little poetic licence in his work.

An interesting possibility.

........and there are a number of possibilities..........Another is that they were produced in month 5 (a wild speculation).

If so, why in only this month? was the die cutter a new man inclined to some mischief?

And another is that they represented the mark for a spcial production of coins.

This appears to be the most interesting........

I agree that there are no easy answers. That is the fun of discussions here on WoC.........

Amit
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.06
Post by: Oesho on July 04, 2011, 03:09:05 PM
Mostly you find a date above the 'gaaf' of Aurangzeb. Also sometime below it. Nevertheless there are several issues were only a decoration is found above the 'gaaf' of Aurangzeb. Why? It's simply a guess. The heart-shape figure is found on a coin dated 1106/Ry.39, but also some years later also on a coin dated 1110/Ry.43.
In between these dates rosettes of dots (like above coin) may be found on this location on the die.
Initially the heart-shape figure is almost like a Persian 5. On the issue of AH1110/Ry.43 the heart-shape is more explicit.
Title: Re: Aurangzeb, Rupee, mint: Akbarabad AH 1106 RY 39. KM#300.06
Post by: asm on October 26, 2011, 01:44:10 PM
Here is another one with a different decoration above the 'gaaf' of Aurangzeb. The RY is 45 and I guess the date is completely off the flan on the obverse bottom line?

Amit