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Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« on: November 04, 2012, 11:53:22 AM »
Sultans of Madurai (Madura):

Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah (AH 770?-779 / AD 1368?-1377/1378)

G&G-MD42: Paisa 4.4g

Obv: sikandar shah al sultan سکندر شاه السلطان
Rev: 'ala al dunya wa al din
Rarity:

This particular coin is NOT mine and was auctioned off by Steve Album. I wish I knew that it was being auctioned off, otherwise I would have grabbed it.  G&G does not have any information on this other than a drawing of the coin and the weight.  I think the information must have gotten cut off during publication.  Any help to fill in the gaps is most appreciated.

Cheers,

Ram
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Re: Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 08:17:50 PM »
Spent some time to decipher the Persian script, but did run into some problems:

شاه is Shah
سکندر is Sikandar
السلطان is The Sultan

What does the blue script indicate?

Thanks,

Ram
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Re: Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 09:57:52 PM »
I'd have taken it for 37 or 38.

You're a very fast learner, QG.

Peter
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Re: Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 10:09:21 PM »
I'd have taken it for 37 or 38.

You're a very fast learner, QG.


Thanks Peter.  Epigraphy is one of my umpteen hobbies  :) and hence enjoy reading scripts that I am not familiar with, especially the ones that I am ethnically tied to.  I figured it was a date or number as well, but the other coins from the other rulers have similar markings.  So, I don't think it is a date...

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Ram
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Re: Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2012, 11:18:50 PM »
The symbol of a lazy 3 above the seen of Sultan is a pronunciation vowel and indicates a double sound. In this case it is a double 's' sound like as-sultan

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Re: Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 12:01:07 PM »
The symbol of a lazy 3 above the seen of Sultan is a pronunciation vowel and indicates a double sound. In this case it is a double 's' sound like as-sultan

Thanks Oesho..Still trying to learn Arabic.  What about that backward c?  Is that also a pronunciation vowel?

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Re: Madura Sultanate - Ala Al-Din Sikandar Shah Paisa (G&G-MD42)
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 01:36:12 PM »
 
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What about that backward c?  Is that also a pronunciation vowel?
It seems to be, but I am not realy acquinted with it.
The usual pronunciation vowels, like zabar, zer, pesh or mostly used.