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Offline bububoy

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Manuel I Bastardo
« on: March 27, 2015, 05:53:34 PM »
One of the heaviest coins issued by the Portuguese for the far east,
this one is a Bastardo issued in 1511 in Malaca by Manuel I.
First issues, AGOMES #16.02, Weight 42 grams.

On the Obverse can be seen alphabets“D M P R DE PV S OR D I E MALA” 
which stands for Dom Manoel the first, King of Portugal and Lord of India
and Malacca






Manuel I, Bastardo, Second Issue, Issued between 1512-1515
AGOMES #17.01, Weight 39 grams
On the Obverse can be seen alphabets“D M P R DE PV S OR D I E MALA”
which stands for Dom Manoel the first, King of Portugal and Lord of India
and Malacca




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Re: Manuel I Bastardo
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2015, 06:19:09 PM »
Compare the first coin to the picture in Gomes. The legend +CRUX XPI NOSTRA SPES VNICA is rotated 45° relative to the central cross. Not a good sign... I also don't like the big dot on the N of VNICA.

Peter
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Re: Manuel I Bastardo
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 08:01:12 AM »
Compare the first coin to the picture in Gomes. The legend +CRUX XPI NOSTRA SPES VNICA is rotated 45° relative to the central cross. Not a good sign... I also don't like the big dot on the N of VNICA.

Peter

dear peter, thanks for your valuable comments and observations. i wasn't so much concerned about the dot, as the Gomes example too has it at  12 o clock, but the legend certainly concerns me now, especially the one in Gomes has a inverted 'N'. The weight of the first example seems to comply with what is mentioned by Gomes.



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Re: Manuel I Bastardo
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 09:03:08 PM »
Inverted Ns are not uncommon on Portuguese coins.

Peter
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