Maratha Paisa with Katar

Started by Rangnath, November 30, 2007, 04:59:45 PM

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Rangnath

This is a large paisa:  24 mm and 14.9 grams .
It is in absolutely terrible condition.  Someone once or twice very harshly cleaned it. There is not much left on the reverse, even the obverse contains little. 
But what intrigues me is the Katar on the obverse. 
I didn't first identify it as such.  In fact, I first thought that it was a Roman numeral. 
When I realised that it was a Katar, a traditional Indian knife of mass destruction (of the intestines or whatever else it pennitrates), I thought that identification would be easy. 
But it isn't easy.  I haven't found one Indian coin with a Katar positioned perpendicular within an Arabic letter as this one appears to be. 
Perhaps someone with a trained eye can give me more information about the coin.
Is that a flag or lance on the reverse? 
Richie

Rangnath

Here's a close up of the Katar.

Figleaf

Quite, Richie. That's a katar and who says katar says Bundi and if it's Bundi the reverse is devanagari script.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Rangnath

I found Katars on at least 5 other Feudal state coins, but every time you write "Bundi", you have been RIGHT.  I am not betting against you.  I did check Bundi before, but I'm going to check it again, this time with tlhe assumption that the script on the back is devanagari.
richie

Rangnath

OK, I took another look.  The Bundi paisas that are bilingual weigh far too little to be my coin, nor do any resemble it in design.  The older paisas, before 1820, and takkas weigh more than my coin  (17.5 to 18 grams as opposed to 14.9 grams).  I do not believe that this coin is from Bundi but I will keep looking.
richie

Oesho

Figleaf?s coin is of no-doubt of Maratha origin. See the two-pointed flag on the reverse.
On the obverse there is an to left pointed katar within the ?lam? of ?Fazl?. The coin shows much resemblance with the contemporary copper coins of Ujjain mint (ref.: Gwalior > Ujjain KM#213). Particular the position of the date (AH1215 or 1219) is located at the same position as the earlier Ujjain coin. Copper coins often show a much greater variety as silver coins and I would suggest that, on account of the similarity of the design and fabric with the Ujjain coppers, that this may also a coin of this mint.

Shariq Khan?s coin doesn?t show a kartar, but a sword (Tegh).

Rangnath

Thank you again Oesho.  With your help, I am learning to see more.  Perhaps I'll someday be able to trust that what I think that I see is actually there:  for example, the flag. 
richie

Prosit

Well I think you are doing great!  I don't see anything but squiggles   ;D  So you are far advanced from me.

Dale
Ignorance, I have plenty of.