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British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« on: March 24, 2011, 03:39:52 PM »
A monometallic British £2, but what is unusual about it?

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EDIT: we lost the illustrations somewhere, hopefully they're back now.
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Re: Dove of peace
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 03:49:06 PM »
From memory, it's only dated on the edge.

Possibly the only British coin to be so treated since the tin halfpennies and farthings of James II?

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Re: Dove of peace
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 04:28:48 PM »
It's the only monometalic £2 with a dove on it? Perhaps?

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Re: Dove of peace
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 04:52:18 PM »
From memory, it's only dated on the edge.

Right in one.   The edge inscription is: " 1945 IN PEACE GOODWILL 1995 + "


Full details KM#970 (1995) £2 "50th Anniversary of the end of The Second World War"


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Re: Dove of peace
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 04:55:06 PM »
Possibly the only British coin to be so treated since the tin halfpennies and farthings of James II?

Good question, I'll change the title to make it "British coins without date on obverse or reverse" and move it to the pre-and post-decimalisation section   Let's see what others we can find.

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Re: British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 05:01:38 PM »
Topic moved, and main title changed.

So, the question now is to find other "undated" British coins, plus any more with the date only on the edge.

I certainly know one, the (2008) 20p mule; I'm still looking for one!

More?

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EDIT: Illustration from Royal Mint added.
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Re: British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 07:36:06 PM »
The last regal coinage issue that was intended not to bear a date AFAIK was the first issue of Charles II (1660-62). From memory this was also the last hammered issue. (I just tried to find my Seaby but it looks like a grenade has gone off in here and I can't find anything!)

As you say, there's the 20p mule from 2008; I don't think there are any intentionally undated coins since 1662, but there may be some other errors.

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Re: British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 07:49:36 PM »
Coincraft notes that the undated hammered maundy series were struck 1660-1662, the undated milled series struck 1660 to c1670.

This one is a milled 2d (don't have any others :'()

always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 10:29:59 PM »
And of course Charles II gave us the tin farthing, with the date on the edge. KM# 436.2

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Re: British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 10:55:07 PM »
I often get asked about 'undated' Victorian florins  ;D

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Re: British coin with TWO dates!
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 03:51:49 PM »
A bit off topic, but why not?   Here's a coin with TWO years.

We're used to the Millennium £5 with the double-date on the reverse, but these had a single year on the obverse.   There are of course many commemmoratives with double-dates but these are often centuries apart.

Here is a genuine double-dated coin, showing "two years of issue" only.   It is the 50p (old, large size) of 1992-1993 commemorating "United Kingdom's Presidency of the Council of Ministers and the completion of the Single European Market".

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Re: British coins without date on obverse or reverse
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 10:11:18 PM »
It's very possible that some cataloguers (KM is a prime example) could consider this an "undated" issue, treating the dates as being purely commemorative and presumably no more than a part of the legends - I noticed last night that Canada's 1967 Centennial series is described as "undated", for instance, despite the prominent dates 1867 and 1967 on every denomination ...