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Spain, Barcelona?
« on: March 19, 2011, 12:06:14 AM »
Well, maybe, possibly.  Can't find anything similar in Krause - unless it's one of the unpictured dinero's?

As ever, help very much appreciated.



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Re: Spain, Barcelona?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 01:29:35 AM »
The coat of arms looks very much like  Barcelona (or Cataluña, or maybe even Perpignan). Around, I read "2•DI(neros)   ANNO   DOS". On the other side, I can't make out what the central device is. At the top, I read Bg (not the Barcelona mintmark, which is Ba) and below 5C(entimos). Even with this information, I can't find it.

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Re: Spain, Barcelona?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 02:18:35 AM »
I can't seem to make out a date...is there one I am just not seeing?
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Re: Spain, Barcelona?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 10:39:35 AM »
Could Peter's "ANNO DOS" actually be "ANNO 1708"?  ANNO is Latin, DOS Spanish, so I can't quite imagine them being mixed in this way.


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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 10:43:21 AM »
Your piece would appear to be an Ardite of Barcelona, 1708, and is listed on p. 7 of this document (or do a search for ANNO 1708 once you have it open):

http://www.raco.cat/index.php/MiscellaniaPenedesenca/article/viewFile/59380/91899

The doc appears to be scanned, so I assume the diameter of "174 mm" is meant to be 17.4 mm, with a touch of punctuation loss in the scanning ...

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Re: Spain, Barcelona?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 12:39:33 AM »
Thanks Martin,
I think the writing reads "ANNO 1709 2 DI"

A type not listed in Krause - yet the earlier type (below) is...

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 03:07:53 AM »
You're probably right about the  date.  The Spanish websites say these were overstruck on earlier coins, which might explain some of the lack of clarity/broken characters, etc.