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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #75 on: April 29, 2020, 09:39:17 AM »
imperatore caracalla seems to have been made with different pictures.

and many of the imperatore coins have been made from different metals.


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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #76 on: April 29, 2020, 04:48:34 PM »
In reply #8 we learned that thee Imperatore series was made in Italy. I find them less classy than other WRL stuff.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #77 on: April 29, 2020, 11:50:39 PM »
Yes the Italian W signature on these, but rather odd to have two different images.
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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2020, 07:30:09 AM »
The facing portrait is prolly a medallion, not a coin. Maybe Westair objected and the Italians used the same font or even a punch of the whole legend for its replacement. Note that the flans have the same shape. Only the portrait is different.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #79 on: April 30, 2020, 08:28:18 AM »
this is the third coin of caracalla, which was also mentioned in earlier posts.

of all the other emperors of this imperatore series, i only have 1 picture per emperor.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #80 on: April 30, 2020, 08:41:29 AM »
Funny! That one looks like a production of Westair proper, an alternative to the crude Italian-made piece shown above.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2020, 08:20:40 PM »
elizabeth I
both sides of the 'original' coin.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2020, 05:04:39 PM »
That is interesting - it is (or rather they are) a further example of the series I illustrated a few pages back in this thread of English/British coins with obverse and reverse on separate flans. I've not seen the Elizabeth sixpence (either side of it) before.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2020, 05:32:58 PM »
i think robert bruce also is not mentioned yet.

here you can see al my WR marked westair tokens : Westair Reproductions - WR

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2021, 07:36:16 PM »
another westair reproduction.
19 mm zinc.

but i can't read the inscription...

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2021, 09:00:59 AM »
another westair reproduction which a can't read.
19mm zinc

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2021, 10:36:06 AM »
8th or 9th century short cross penny. The type was widely used in Europe, but since it is Westair you'd expect it to be British. Not in Spink. Irish?

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #87 on: October 23, 2021, 10:50:39 AM »
but i can't read the inscription...

Harold II, PAX type, Spink 1186 (with scepter in left field) or 1187 (without scepter).

obv: + HAROLD REX ANGLorum
rev: (moneyer and mint) PAX in central band

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #88 on: October 23, 2021, 10:58:12 AM »
re Reply 85

Poitou, Richard the lionheart denier.

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Re: Westair repros (WRL)
« Reply #89 on: October 23, 2021, 11:22:41 AM »
Brilliant, Manzikert! I missed the I in the first line completely.

Denier (1189-1199), Boudeau 420, Poey d'Avant 2536, Duplessy -

obv: short cross in circle + RICARDVS REX or variant
rev: PIC / TAVIE / NSIS (of Poitou)

Actually, Richard was count of Poitou. He was king of England. By heraldic rules, he should not have mixed his titles.

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