Modern Replicas?

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NOTE Topic split from 1933 Penny offered on eBay, then suddenly withdrawn
Bill.
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Now there's an EVIII threepence (1937) starting at GBP 13.99. I thought those coins/patterns were 1936 only?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Spectacular-Edward-VIII-8th-1937-Brass-Threepence-/220738598884

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Now there's an EVIII threepence (1937) starting at GBP 13.99. I thought those coins/patterns were 1936 only?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Spectacular-Edward-VIII-8th-1937-Brass-Threepence-/220738598884

The original brass trial 3ds and full proof sets were all dated 1937.  The retrospective fantasy "crowns" produced by Spink, Lobel, INA etc. are dated 1936 though.

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If there had been any coins officially issued for Edward VIII, the earliest would have been dated 1937.   This is because 'new coins' are not issued until after the Coronation.   His Coronation would not have been until 1937.

Now, please, a name is required by which we can refer to these so-called coins.

Bill.

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If there had been any coins officially issued for Edward VIII, the earliest would have been dated 1937.   This is because 'new coins' are not issued until after the Coronation.   His Coronation would not have been until 1937.

Now, please, a name is required by which we can refer to these so-called coins.

Bill.

Trials or patterns. Since they were going to be legitimate, had history otherwised.

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Now, please, a name is required by which we can refer to these so-called coins.

The ones on eBay are "rubbish replicas", while the originals are "patterns" or "trials".  The type represented by the replica was struck and released in small numbers (supposedly to vending machine manufacturers) and a small number were not returned.  The full 1937 proof set would presumably have become a legitimate issue had the Coronation gone ahead, so it's in a kind of limbo.

Sadly, the value of the word "pattern" is being eroded by the manufacturers of "retrospective patterns" - an oxymoron if there ever was one, to the extent that most of the "patterns" you see are modern medallic issues that have nothing to do with the true sense of the term.

[andyg]

I've often wondered about buying one of these,



(from the same seller), then sticking it in the middle of a junk lot then offering it on Ebay.
with the rider "I don't know nuffin about coins....."

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Rubbish-replica seems sbout right.

I have often thought that production and marketing of this sort of thing ought to be illegal, but then I realise that, on occasions, such things might be needed when making 'period' films and so on.

I expect that someone that we used to know would call them medal-coins  

Bill.

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I expect that someone that we used to know would call them medal-coins  

They're not even that.  What our pal calls "medal coins" at least have a medallic/commemorative function, which the replicas don't.

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There's a fine line somewhere. That tuppence is really not too difficult to find in decent condition. The replica can only serve to deceive, as Andy points out cleverly Down with it!

However, I have once considered buying a replica of the "Una and the lion" pattern. Now IF a genuine one would come up for sale and IF I could, and would have wanted to, spend what it takes to buy it, I would have given it to a museum. The replica would have been a "filler" for a piece I admire and will never own.

Peter