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2009 50p 'Blue Peter' mule?
« on: April 08, 2010, 10:02:54 PM »
I have just removed this coin from its Royal Mint packaging in order to scan it for SCWC.

Problem!   I have always considered it to be struck to 'circulation' grade and I still consider this to be so for the reverse.   However, the obverse appears to me to be 'brilliant uncirculated'.

Can anyone advise me further, please?

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Re: 2009 50p 'Blue Peter' mule?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 08:39:25 AM »
Split grades, where one side is e.g. EF and the other one F are of course quite possible, for instance when a coin was worn on clothing. Striking a coin with two different technologies, e.g one side is proof, the other side is a circulation strike, is not, especially when the technique involves extra power for the strike. So it is with BU. The crucial difference between a circulation strike and a BU strike is that the BU strike is caught coming out of the press and does not come into contact with other coins, while a circulation strike land between other freshly struck coins and acquires more"bag marks" on its way from the mint to the distribution point. You cannot have a coin that is BU on one side only.

Nice unc coins do not have many bag marks, so they may look like BU. I have even seen circulation strike coins with proof frosting. That is an effect from brand new dies on modern, hard metals. It doesn't make the coins proof strikes, though.

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Re: 2009 50p 'Blue Peter' mule?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 09:10:17 AM »
I have even seen circulation strike coins with proof frosting. That is an effect from brand new dies on modern, hard metals. It doesn't make the coins proof strikes, though.

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This is especially true for new Swiss circulation coins.

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Re: 2009 50p 'Blue Peter' mule?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 01:13:38 PM »
I have just sent this message to the Royal Mint:-

Would you advise me, please, the official grade of strike of the 2009 'Blue Peter' 50pence.   The one that I have appears to be 'brilliant uncirculated' on the obverse but only 'uncirculated' on the reverse which is not to such a high finish.

Many thanks.


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Re: 2009 50p 'Blue Peter' mule?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 02:01:45 PM »
Thinking about this, I think that the answer might be that it was issued as 'uncirculated', having no special finish but individual handling and packing.

We'll see.

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Re: 2009 50p 'Blue Peter' mule?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 02:47:58 PM »
The official answer arrived this morning:-

Thank you for your email.
 
Please accept my apologies for the delay in our response, I can now confirm that the LUK50BP coin is of "UNCIRCULATED" finish.
 
Regards
Allyson Bowden
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