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Need help identifying Islamic Coin #78 (Ayyubid? / Mamluk?)

Started by kimo, January 04, 2025, 09:05:57 PM

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kimo

I purchased this ancient coin from ebay as Islamic (Ayyubid? / Mamluk?) Coin
and I need your help identifying it from what era and year and what is written on it
any information will be helpful
Ruler?
year?
Mint?
City?
Metal?
weight 2 g
Diameter 15 mm

Thanks

kimo

I think this is

Umayyad Caliphate: Anonymous (ca 718-719 CE) / (78-132 AH) AE Fals, Hims, ND (Walker-801)

Obv: In the field, full circle with dot inside; around, marginal legend: circle, لا إله إلا الله وحده (There is no god but Allah); traces of outer circle
Rev: In the field, semi-circle with dot inside; around, marginal legend:ضرب هذا الفلس بحمص (Struck this fals of Hims); traces of outer circle

Discussions on Zeno.ru  https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=149084 indicate that the "full circle with dot inside" might be a shining sun (šams) or a full moon (badr) whereas the "semi-circle with dot inside" is clearly a crescent (hilál) and morning star (kawkab)...




https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=13602&page=3

aws22

Dear kimo, your coin details:
Artuqids of Halab, Fakhr al-Din Il-Ghazi I,Date?, citing the Great Seljuq overlord Sanjar, AR fractional dirham, Halab mint (AH 511-515/1118-1122 AD)
Obverse (Left photo):
Field:
Bull's eye in the center
Inner margin: around the bull's-eye:
Top: الملك  , al-Malik
Left: الغازي  , Il-Ghazi
Bottom: فخر  , Fakhr
Right: الدين  , al-Din
Outer margin:
Not clear
Reverse (Right photo):
Field:
Bull's eye in the center
Inner margin: around the bull's-eye:
Top: السلطان , al-Sultan
Left: الملك  ,al-Malik
Bottom: محمد , Muhammad
Right: سنجر  , Sanjar
Outer margin:
Not clear
Najm (Fakhr) al-Din Il-Ghazi bin Artuq bin Aksab al-Turkmani (فخر الدين الغازي ابن ارتق ابن أكسب التركماني); Il-Ghazi bin Artuq, the ruler of Mardin and one of the sons of the Artuqid family. He and his brother, Prince Suqman, were among the princes of Taj al-Dawla Tutush, the ruler of the Levant, so he granted them Jerusalem, and they were subjected to wars, then Ilghazi took control of Mardin. He was brave, wise, dignified and famous. He fought the Franks more than once, and took Aleppo after the sons of Ridwan bin Tutush. He seized Mayyafariqin and other places a year before his death.
Zeno #243034

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

kimo


kimo

Hi Maythem

are you sure this Artuqids of Halab, Fakhr al-Din Il-Ghazi I and not Ottoman » Mehmed II, 2nd reign 855-886 - 1451-1481 » AE manghir » Karahisar

https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=19301

see the pictures


aws22

Thank you kimo, I am not sure about my ID but it is the nearest match.

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

kimo

Hi Maythem, Anthony and eveyone

I just put the 3 together to compare

which one you would think my coin looks like between the 2, or maybe it does not look like any of them

lets get some opinions
   
Artuqids of Halab, Fakhr al-Din Il-Ghazi I on top
my coin in the middle
Ottoman » Mehmed II, 2nd reign 855-886 - 1451-1481 » AE manghir » Karahisar at the bottom

Thanks

aws22

Dear kemo, comparing your coin and zeno Mehmed II coin, please note:
Zeno coin:
Right photo:
خلد ملكه ضرب في قره حصار ,  kallada mulkahu, darba fi Karahisar ( the word " muklkahu ملكه " is clear)
Left photo:
محمد بن مراد خان , Muhammad bin Murad Khan
Your coin:
Right photo:
......الملك .....  , ..... al-Malik .....
Left photo:
not readable
I do agree that the style of your coin is likely to be Ottoman (Mehmed II); may be my reading of the word " al-Malik الملك " is wrong and it is " Mulkahu ملكه "; then I agree that zeno coin is a good match. So please go ahead, I do not mind changing my ID to:
Ottoman, Mehmed II, 2nd reign, AE Manghir, mint? (AH 855-886/1451-1481 AD)

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".