Where is the spirit of this category ? Where is the enthusiam for these coins ?

[JMP]

Respect! Yes, you're sort of well organized  .
I must admit, I just looked up youre profile, to see if your year of birth was mentioned. In other words, if you are a pensioner, because it looks you have a full time job at the way to follow this up.
Very tidy, done with love  .

[eurocoin]

Yesterday I realized that Vatican City had issued two different series of circulating coins in 2005. Of course I was aware of the existence of the Sede Vacante set, but had forgotten that that year also the regular coins were released.

[JMP]

Yesterday I visited "Antwerpfila", a fair with mainly post stamps in offer, but also coins and sometimes post cards which could interest me.

I did not find much of my liking. All the nice post cards had a post stamp glued on the front side and there were no ancient coins present.

Having stopped my eurocoin collection in 2021, I took however a look at the eurocoin offer as cold comfort. And hohoho ...

In one of the albums, I found, the presentation of the €2CC's Malta 2012 was marked with the rejected design for that coin (Hitler and the stretched arm salute). I asked the lady if I could buy the label.

"You want to buy the presentation card  ?"
"Yes, what do you want for it ?"
"Come, put it in your pocket."

I am glad with it because it is much clearer than the extract from the press which I had (and showed here earlier) of this design.
Later, at the canteen, I got as change a German €2CC 2023, the Karolus monogram over the octagonal floor plan of Charlemagnes Palatine Chapel in Aachen.

See both items here underneath:

[krishna]

"oh that is nice and shiny !" 

 

[JMP]

Very funny, my friendly Friend! I cannot stop laughing  !
But, as the French say:"Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas", I find this a very nice coin with a very tasteful design.
I see many Indian, British . . . and coins of all sides of the world, passing by here on the forum, which are far less sophisticated than this nice German one, but I do not feel the urge to scream: "Oh, what a stupid thing!"
I thought Gandhi would not have posted a reaction like yours.

[eurocoin]

I got as change a German €2CC 2023, the Karolus monogram over the octagonal floor plan of Charlemagnes Palatine Chapel in Aachen.

Do you add the commemorative 2 euro coins that you find in circulation to your collection?

[JMP]

Well, frankly spoken, I do not know!
With "20 Years Eurocoins, 2002-2021" I have three albums and these are full.
I had no intention to start up another album, but on the other hand, I cannot let these nice new coins go.
Mind you, untill today, I only have two (post 2021). I am always paying by card and the €2-coins I get occasionally in hand are mainly German, French or Italian regular coins.
So, in the future I will have to decide what I'll do with those new coins but it is not problem to solve urgently.
I will keep you informed  .

[quaziright]

Very funny, my friendly Friend! I cannot stop laughing  !
But, as the French say:"Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas", I find this a very nice coin with a very tasteful design.
I see many Indian, British . . . and coins of all sides of the world, passing by here on the forum, which are far less sophisticated than this nice German one, but I do not feel the urge to scream: "Oh, what a stupid thing!"
I thought Gandhi would not have posted a reaction like yours.

If it makes you feel any better, India stopped issuing commemorative coins for circulation nearly 10 years ago while the Uk now only releases a fraction of their commemoratives into circulation. People were tired of the unending churning out of those. The EU has limited it to 2 per country, but that's still a lot every year for someone who is collecting the entire eurozone.

I like the Charlemagne coin and in fact I visited Aachen cathedral just a few months before the announcement of that coin and got a medallion of the same design.

Germany imo has improved their circulation commems with the 2€CC. Previously they issued just those few 2DM portraits which were awful. On the other hand, the Euro design rules have stifled creativity from countries like Portugal, Spain, Greece, Slovenia and even France. The 2€ is not a very large coin let alone limiting the design to the inner pill

I think Canadas circulation commems for the most part have dynamic and vibrant designs that use the entire surface area of the reverse and the limit to 3-4 pieces each year is just about right (except in the 1990s; luckily we learned from it)

[krishna]

Very funny, my friendly Friend! I cannot stop laughing  !
But, as the French say:"Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas", I find this a very nice coin with a very tasteful design.
I see many Indian, British . . . and coins of all sides of the world, passing by here on the forum, which are far less sophisticated than this nice German one, but I do not feel the urge to scream: "Oh, what a stupid thing!"
I thought Gandhi would not have posted a reaction like yours.

i was (very) amused  thinking about the scene where the things which are very valuable to collectors are just another shiny object fit to be passed on, and rarely get noticed

I congratulate you for the hard work you have put in to develop such an awesome collection

PS: Gandhi may not have remained a "mahatma" after the advent of computers, so i doubt whether he would have even bothered to react at all..

[eurocoin]

At least one of the Battle of Waterloo 2 euro coins still exists in a private collection.

[Figleaf]

Please add a clickable source to the above pictures or remove them.

Peter

[JMP]

I added the sources to the pictures, Peter. I hope I did it like you wanted it.

[Figleaf]

Thank you. It's not so much how I want it as what the law demands. With our success comes attention and with attention comes scrutiny from third parties. See also here.

Peter

[JMP]

I see this topic has been split of my original one and the other part is in "Stories on and behind the coins", which has been made sticky on this board.
Yes, I can see why it has been done and have no difficulties with it.
Of course there are some odd consequences, the reader can be best made aware of:

My titel: "Where is the spirit of this category ? Where is the enthusiasm for this coins ?"
was the cry of someone who is a fervent supporter of the EU and the eurocoins. I would demonstrate, that it was easily realizable to make an attractive collection with these coins, which have an interesting history of issued and rejected designs.
Now, the topic under this "stolen" title, seems suddenly to be started by someone who is not enthusiast about these coins at all and brings on reasons to stop collecting them  .

That makes quite a difference, I find, at the verge of intention change.

Also, a split gives always some loose ends as there are the three posts before this one, which make absolutely no sense here anymore.

[Illioplius]

I avidly collected 2euro coins until 2022 and then called it quits...
- too many countries,
-too many issues each year,
-some in circulation, some not, but paying way above face value for almost all of them
- micro states which are out of reach
- cynical marketing tactics by countries like Luxembourg, Belgium and France to surcharge on some coins or issue with/without hologram.

With so many hundreds issued so far, all the designs have literally blurred into one mass. IMO there is no joy in this and by 2020 I realised I was just going through the motions, but took a couple years to actually say to myself enough.

I suspect, many collectors came to that same conclusion. That said, you should definitely post about new commem issues here. Maybe there are still some 2€ cc collectors out there who will engage. 

I totally agree with you. That's why I stopped collecting commemorative coins back in 2015. To me, what killed this hobby, was:
- rule change in 2012 that allowed each country to issue two comm. coins per year instead of one,
- too many common issues (a LOT of coins with the same* - and poor - design),
- the fact that some rare comm. coins are very limited and expensive (espeacially proof ones from Monaco),
- too many variants (different mint marks, minting techniques...).

What would make commemorative coin collecting attractive for me again, is:
- only one comm. coin per country per year,
- no common issues**,
- no issues for collectors only, e.g. from every coin type some amount must go into circulation; that would go for microstates as well.

*The only fun common issue for me was the 2007 Roman treaty which at least included writings in different languages. This was not the case with later common issues.
**Perhaps I would be OK with some common issues, but only if the TOPIC was the same for all eurozone countries, but the design would be up on each one. That way we would get 20 different coins with the same theme which in my opinon is totally in line with the EU motto "United in diversity".