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[Figleaf]

This is not the way this coin was meant to look.

Peter

[chrisild]

Ouch, even looking at the piece hurts.

Christian

[Prosit]

Looks pretty good!  Looks like a saw blade.  Here is one not so pretty.
Dale

[Figleaf]

Har har har. It's good to chat with real collectors, who appreciate uglyness. Whereas mine was made at home, yours looks like it was adjusted in shape officially. At the changeover to the euro, old gulden pieces were similarly deformed at the Dutch mint. Cleverly, they were sold to collectors. A nice illustration of what must have been by far the largest financial operation of the millennium.

Peter

[chrisild]

Yes, that 5 Schilling piece probably went through a decoiner; those machines could "stamp" up to 5 tons of coins per hour. I still have some decoined German pieces which look pretty much like that Austrian one. They did that with the Cu-Ni coins because after that treatment the pieces were nothing but scrap metal which was easier to sell, to transport, etc.  At the Money Museum store in Frankfurt you can still buy such decoined pieces, and also notes that went through a shredder. As in NL they make money with worthless ex-money.

Christian

[Prosit]

Yep this piece of destructive art work was done at the mint to de-coin it.  When they started doing this, I traded something US to a collector in Graz for it. Got a 10-ATS like it around here somewhere and think I have something German decoined too, but not sure about that.

So mine is a mess but it is an official mess  rotfl

Dale

[Figleaf]

Hey ho Silver, a whole new collecting area dooms. I absolutely need these official messes from other countries.

I like decoined as a term too. Its better than the stuffy demonetized (there's a devil in that word) or the official Dutch term wokkel (reminds me of stale potato chips).

Peter

[JeanPar]

Here are such Dutch potato chips 

One is the normal gulden of 2001 and the other is the last one of 2001, with 'lion'. But the first one of this topic I like the most of all 

[Figleaf]

What a challenge, to find a commemorative decoined coin. Thanks JeanPar!

Peter

[Prosit]

So does that mean it was decoined accidentally?  A Mint un-coining error? 

Wonder it there were any blank planchets, decoined accidentally.........

Dale

[Figleaf]

No error. It's just that you expect people to hold on to commemoratives. The mint staff wouldn't even have noticed, I suppose.

Peter

[chrisild]

There is something fishy about JeanPar's wokkels ... If the second one actually had that obverse, I would definitely have kept it "intact". Otherwise, well, the design with the little lion is nice, but that coin is not exactly rare. I can well imagine that somebody (especially people who are not collectors) would simply have it exchanged into euro cash.

Christian

[Figleaf]

Never underestimate people packrat instinct, Christian. I forgot the actual percentage of old coins turned in, but it was shockingly low. This one may just have slipped through anyway, though. Nevetheless, I expect it'll be quite a chhase to find a decoined commemorative.

Peter

[JeanPar]

There is something fishy about JeanPar's wokkels ... If the second one actually had that obverse, I would definitely have kept it "intact". Otherwise, well, the design with the little lion is nice, but that coin is not exactly rare. I can well imagine that somebody (especially people who are not collectors) would simply have it exchanged into euro cash.

Christian

Dear me, that is a little bit stupid of me. I took the wrong photo when working with the Paintprogramm for putting the photos next to each other.
Christian, good of you to see, thanks! I will remove the other one.

Here is the right obverse:

[Prosit]

Officially canceled.

Germany 1990-F 5 DM
Germany 1988-J 1Dm