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india silver coin? *Ottoman,Suleiman I Akce 1520ad*

Started by stupido, August 14, 2024, 03:23:12 PM

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stupido

sorry my knowledge on these coins are zero.
I can only see star in the middle, anything else is just mess.
Eyeing india and middle east coins right now.
0.71 grams, 13mm.
"Ask stupid questions. Never provide." -Stupido

THCoins

Hi, the category you have to look for is Ottoman Akce (Akce is the denomination).
I am not so familiar with these. The category will be correct, but can not give you the ruler at first sight though. In your photo the right side is upside-down.

stupido

#2
thank you!
Right way now?
"Ask stupid questions. Never provide." -Stupido

stupido

Orange: 2 dots
red: 3 dots

im trying to find similar patterns on ottoman akce coins.
Lets hope this leads me to true sultan/emperor/king.
I must say: my head hurts when i look all these arabic letters.
"Ask stupid questions. Never provide." -Stupido

THCoins

Unfortunately calligraphy was more about elegance than readability  :-\ Loose characters are usually of no help. One has to learn to recognize clusters of characters for reading these.
Your right side probably shows the name of the ruler. It starts at the top with "Sultan"
For the name, my first goto would be "Suleyman/Suleiman".

aws22

#5
Thank you Anthony for the coin ID:
Dear stupido, your coin details:
Ottoman, Sultan Suleiman I the Magnificent, AH 926 (1520 AD), AR Akce, Misr (Egypt) mint (AH 926-974/1520-1566 AD)
Reverse (Left photo):
نصره , nasrahu
ب  , b
عز ضر  , azza (May he be victorious),  duraba (struck)
فى مصر  , fi Misr (Egypt)
سنة  , sanah
۹۲٦  , 926
Obverse (Right photo):
السلطان  , al-Sultan
سليمان  , Suleiman
شاه , Shah
بن  , bin
سليم  , Selim
شاه  , Shah
Suleiman I (سليمان اول), commonly known as Suleiman the Magnificent in the West and Suleiman the Lawgiver (سلطان سليمان قانونى) in his realm, was the tenth and longest-reigning Sultan of the Ottoman Empire from 1520 until his death in 1566. Under his administration, the Ottoman caliphate ruled over at least 25 million people. He was the only son of Sultan Selim I.
Similar to Numista N#42825, but with different mint

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

stupido

"Ask stupid questions. Never provide." -Stupido

THCoins

#7
Thanks for picking this up Maythem. But I have to disagree with your suggestion of Misr as mintplace.
I think Siroz (Like the other specimen, but with different spelling) is much more likely.
Compare with this one on Zeno.

Anthony

aws22

Thank you Anthony, yes, I was in doubt about the mint. I agree it is Siroz (Greece) mint:
Ottoman, Sultan Suleiman I the Magnificent, AH 926 (1520 AD), AR Akce, Siroz (Greece) mint (AH 926-974/1520-1566 AD)
Reverse (Left photo):
نصره , nasrahu
ب  , b
عز ضر  , azza (May he be victorious),  duraba (struck)
سيروس , Siroz (Greece)
سنة  , sanah
۹۲٦  , 926
Siroz, Serez, Sérres (سيروس , سيرس) is a city in Macedonia, Greece, capital of the Serres regional unit and second largest city in the region of Central Macedonia, after Thessaloniki.

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".