Ducat 1841. Is it a russian imitation or not?

[ErikRaude]

I recently bought this ducat from 1841. I expect it to be a russian imitation just based on how many they produced, but I`m struggeling with finding good information. If someone have any knowledge to share it would be more than welcome. I would love to know if it is an russian imitation, and why or why not.

[Figleaf]

Russian imitations of this coin exist. See here for more information and a scan from an article listing characteristics of the imitations.

Peter

[Henk]

Russian imitations of this coin exist. See here for more information and a scan from an article listing characteristics of the imitations.

Peter

The articles in the "Jaarboek voor Munt- en Penningkunde" referred to by Peter, can be found on this site: https://jaarboekvoormuntenpenningkunde.nl/jaarboek-op-artikel/

[Figleaf]

WOW! Great link. Saved it as well as Van der Wiel's article in the 1952 issue. Still hunting for the article on the Princely coins of Orange. Thank you, Henk!

Peter

[ErikRaude]

Thank you for the article! It looks like it will have the answers I seek! Now I only need to encrypt this dutch text😂

[Figleaf]

That ain't no problem. The high road is with Google Translate on your phone. Set the source language to Dutch, the target language to Norwegian or English or whatever, click on camera and point your camera at your screen. If you find a piece of text you want to store, select it and copy it into Google translate on your computer. Copy the translation and paste it into your favourite text processor.

The low road is to copy the article piece by piece (Google translate has a maximum of characters), paste it into Google Translate on your computer an transfer the translation as before. You won't get high literature, but you'll understand.

The scenic route is to have two glasses of gin (one of the Dutch national drinks) and a beer. Repeat until the Dutch reads like your favourite language. More fun, but slightly harder to remember what you read.

Peter

[ErikRaude]

Great tip! I took the long road and translated the whole text bit by bit and put it into a document. I'm only missing the gin😂 realized it's gonna take a while to understand and consume all the information, so will go through it thoroughly the next day I have a few hours off😁