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Tiny AE with "Ф"

Started by ZYV, February 16, 2024, 08:02:15 PM

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JMP

Yes! Looks very much something like this 14th-15th century Hungarian:

JMP

Underneath one can compare the reverses. Also something like that, I would say:

ZYV

Dear  JMP, thank you very much!

Looks like it is it.  :)

My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

ZYV

But weight - 0.21 g.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces74696.html
https://numizmarket.hu/en/hungary/details/45/8285
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And metal....  :(
My coin is from copper, looks like....
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

saro

:applause: I think you are close to got it !
I see now the lower part of the double branch anchor cross
it could be well a debased coin as suggested by Kamnaskires?
"All I know is that I know nothing" (Socrates)

ZYV

Quote from: saro on February 19, 2024, 11:33:12 AMit could be well a debased coin as suggested by Kamnaskires?
AE coin.
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

saro

#21
It could be a "Quarting" struck in years 1400-1437 AD, as I find ref. on the web, which explains the copper aspect:

    Quarting — small, low-quality silver (billon) coin of Hungary, which was mass minted during 1430-1437 by the Hungarian king Sigismund of Luxembourg. It was 1/4 of the local denár. It replaced the parvus — 1/3 of a denár.

  "As was often the case with medieval coins, quarting quickly began to depreciate immediately after its appearance. The quality decreased catastrophically — the silver content became symbolic (the precious metal was almost absent in the alloy). Matrices were often used extremely worn. In addition, the coin itself was tiny — typically weighing around 0.3 grams."

Double cross  accosted by "C" and "N" (mint marks?) /reverse : a crown and not a person
"All I know is that I know nothing" (Socrates)

JMP

Compare, compare, compare . . .
A Quarting? Maybe.
Arguments pro: the slovenly way the cross is struck and the "C" at the left of it (while the other letter can vary).
Argument against: Do not see how to turn our coins' reverse to result in this kind of crown.

aws22

Here is the crown, showning top edges:

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

JMP

Yes, possible if this is a small crown.
Maybe the coin is an overstruck.
I went back to the original picture:
The red four pointed stars I have met on the three tops of what I can see as the crown.
The two yellow arrows, on the other hand, point to what I have always seen as a sceptre holding fist and a crowned head.
What do you think ?
Maythem, compare now with your own picture and then you see it even better.

aws22

Thank you JMP, I see it better now. I have rotated my photo slightly to show the crown head at the top.

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".