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French copper?

Started by FosseWay, January 17, 2024, 09:20:55 AM

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FosseWay

Copper, 22.4 mm, 1.22 g

The lys on the shield suggest France, but this may be a red herring. The text on the shield side is annoyingly just out of reach for me. I see DOV...VS 8 at 3 to 5 o'clock and EPS (common abbreviation for episcopus, bishop) at 6-7 o'clock.

The other side is even less legible  ???

A Google image search consistently interprets the fleurs-de-lys as crowns and gives me a load of irrelevant Swedish coins.

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If the diameter is around 22.5 mm (if it's not, it should be around 17.5 mm), this is a (very) low silver content brulé / swerte in the name of Louis of Bourbon, prince-bishop of Luik/Liège (1456-1482), Vanhoudt G 1043, De Chestret de Haneffe 365. Pictured in Hasseltse Munten (Hasselt 1980), number 29, Numista 52228.

obv: arms of Bourbon with diagonal to indicate a younger son in pearl circle. Heraldic lily on top, followed by LVDOVICVS:EPiscopvS:LEODIENSIS - Louis bishop of Liège/Luik.

rev: Forked, decorated short cross, heraldic lily (Hasselt mintmark?) in centre. Heraldic lily on top, followed by MONeta:NOVA:FACTA:IN:hASSELT - new coin made in Hasselt. (your picture is upside down)

Congratulation on being right on all letters you spotted!

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

FosseWay

Thank you, very quick!

There is one letter or number that is quite clear, which doesn't fit with the legend you give. After the VS of LVDOVICVS and before EPS, just before 6 o'clock, there is ... something. A number 8? Another S? Or is it two hollow pellets representing a colon?

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Experience. I knew immediately it was Southern Netherlands because of the cross. EPS means Luik and the style is late middle ages, so the search was on for a Louis.

It's one of the colons, but badly engraved. They also occur with a "colon" of three dots. It's a traditional style low value coin and bishop "Lowieke" was busily introducing important new silver coins, including the Vierlander, a predecessor of the stuiver in the Southern Netherlands, so they wouldn't have put their best engravers on this coin.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.