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fractional dirhem of Barsbay AH825-841/AD1422-1438
« on: February 21, 2010, 06:37:06 PM »
Hello,

I need help to identify this coin.
I think it is a Ottoman Empire Akce.
Silver, 13mm, 1.0g

Thanks, Dietmar
« Last Edit: August 19, 2010, 10:34:04 PM by Figleaf »
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Re: help needed
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 05:35:22 AM »
Gosh, how little I know!
I feel sure that this coin is not an Akce. It is too large, for one, and the legends are all wrong for another. 
But what is it  and where does it come from?  I don't think that we should be looking at coins from the Ottoman Empire, but there is a lot of possibilities between Spain and India!
I think I can see part of Mohammed rasul Allah on the obverse.  Well, that doesn't help us very much I'm afraid. 
richie

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Re: help needed
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 12:17:50 PM »
Thanks richie,
I will definitely try in the direction of what to get out.

Dietmar
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Re: help needed
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 01:39:01 PM »
This coin remained unattributed for quite some time.
Richie was right in pointing out that it probably isn't an Ottoman coin. On first glance it looks more like a Mamluk issue, but not being familar with this series, I didn't try to attribute it. As after some time no attribution by others followed, I tried with the help of ZENO to find a similar coin among the long list of rulers. And yes there it is: AR fractional dirhem of Barsbay (al-Ashraf Sayf al-Din Abu'l-Nasr) AH825-841/AD1422-1438.
The name Al-Ashraf is clearly visible on your coin, however as I am not realy aquinted with this series, I am not able to point out a date or mint.

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Re: help needed
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 12:44:53 AM »
Pretty brilliant, Oesho. I am glad someone who at least recognizes the characters did the hard work. I don't think I could have done it.

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Re: help needed
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 10:22:39 PM »
Medalstrike
can I add your coin to my database Gallery?
http://www.mbook.net.ua/category/osmanskaja-imperija/

Thanks!
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Re: fractional dirhem of Barsbay AH825-841/AD1422-1438
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 07:04:12 PM »
Thank you for your detective work Oesho,
I am pleased that this coin has now found its place.

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Re: help needed
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2010, 09:55:03 PM »
can I add your coin to my database Gallery?
http://www.mbook.net.ua/category/osmanskaja-imperija/
Thanks! Andrei

?You want this Mamluk coin in an Osman gallery?