Jaintiapur, Ramsimha II, AR Tanka, Saka 1712

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Jaintiapur, Ramsimha II,1790-1832AD AR Tanka, Saka 1712

Weight, g: 8.55
Size, mm: 29
Mint: Jaintiapur
Date: saka 1712
Denomination: Tanka
Metal: AR


Congratulations "Capn", with this very nice piece. Would be welcome in my collection  ::) .
Maybe the Indian members here can tell us exactly which script this is. Maybe Nagari, but for which language?


Legends are in Bengali, the coins of this ruler became debased so lower silver content

Left image: Sri Sri Si/va Charana Ka/mala Madhu Ka/rasya + six pointed star /

Right image:. Sri Sri Ja/yantipura Pu/ransarasya Sa/ke 1712



Yes, Bengali, thank you.
I found the piece on Numista, but they are very thrifty with their comment there.
They do not even give the orientation of the coin. I always like to know if it might be a medal aligned coin. However it got an high rarity index (93).
What troubles me a bit, they give as issuer: Tinnevelly. But that is situated in Tamil Nadu  :o !
That seems to be impossible.


this is a very informative presentation on Tripura Coins


Dear JMP

Information on Numista is provided by anyone who joins and therefore anyone can make errors and add things incorrectly.

Your mention of die alignment puzzles me as it cannot normally apply to hand struck coins where one die is randomly picked up and hand held.
In the case of Jaintiapur and Tripura where the dies are properly centred then it's clear they are struck with a hand powered fly press, but are they aligned?  I just checked mine and they are not aligned at all, just randomly inserted in the press, why would they even bother to align the dies.


Hello "capnbirdseye",

I understand fully what you are writing.
Nice coins however, even if hand struck, can be aligned. Roman coins from official mints were mostly struck in coin alignment, where the provincial pieces followed the Greek habit to struck in medal alignment. And here we have a nice coin anno 1790, even if most coins from the Princely states were unaligned, this nice coin looks as being struck whit care. So, I thought ...
Because I have all my coins in albums and I write comments on the coinholders, I am only interested in medal aligned coins. Once you turn the page, coin aligned coins are all upside down and thus you cannot write on that side of the coinholder.
In fact each coin, if not an "alignment", has a position and I accept in my collections coins with a position from 11 to 1 o'clock.
That's why I was interested in the possible alignment of your coin. The accidental position of the piece gives of course no clue to that of an other specimen of the type.
However, thank you very much for your kind information.


Dear JMP

Everyone should collect exactly as they please, it's nice that you specialise in medal alignment coins.

I have noticed that unlike Indian hammered, and Asian coins in general, Roman coins are rarely struck off centre and I wonder if the mint was forced to make sure the full die was visible? maybe striking the Emperors head half off the flan was punishable by death?

EDIT: I just checked my machine struck Rupees of Kutch, most are medal aligned ,one is coin and several are neither so appear haphazard