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Silver dinar - Aq Qoyunlu?

Started by Small change, March 28, 2023, 07:48:56 PM

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Small change

Hello. Here is one side, probably reverse, of a silver dinar, 4.80 g and 16 mm. Within the square cartouche is the Arabic duriba, and so presumably the mint is below. The only possibility I see is Urmi (Urumiya), but the second letter looks more like kaf than re. The marginal legend is the square script occasionally seen during the Ilkhanid-Timurid era. The reverse is several lines of the more usual Arabic script within an octofoil, but is too far worn and lightly struck to show well in a scan. I'm guessing that this is an issue of the Aq Qoyunlu after Rustam, in the final years before the Sefavid conquest. Any ideas about this would be most appreciated!

Mike

ArDinar_rev.jpg

aws22

#1
Dear Mike, I need to see the other side of the coin to confirm the ID of your coin:
Aq Qoyunlu, Uzun Hasan (abu'l Nasr), AR Tanka, al-Hisn mint (AH 857-882/1453-1478 AD)
Reverse: Legend in kufi style around a square box with mint inside:
Inside square box:
ضرب الحصن  , Dhurab al-Hisn
Around square box:
Top: لا اله الا  , La Ilah Illa
Left:  الله محمد    , Allah Muhammad
Bottom: رسول  , Rasul
Right:  الله , Allah
al-Hisn or Hisn Kayfa (حصن كيفا‎) is an ancient town and district located along the Tigris River in the Batman Province in southeastern Turkey. It was declared a natural conservation area by Turkey in 1981. " Hisn حصن " means "fortress" in Arabic, so the name overall means "Rock fortress".
The Aq Qoyunlu or Ak Koyunlu, also called the White Sheep Turkomans (Turkish: Akkoyunlular, Turkmen: Akgoýunly, Persian: آق قویونلو or آغ قویونلو), was a Sunni Oghuz Turkic tribal federation that ruled present-day Azerbaijan, Armenia, eastern Turkey, and northern Iraq from 1378 to 1501.

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

Small change

Thank you Maythem! Obviously my ability to decipher Arabic is poor, but that does not stop me from attempting a decent collection of these beautiful and under-appreciated coins. The low weight threw me off toward the reform downward from the Shahrukhi dinar standard but I suppose the wear accounts for the deviation from the 5.1 g standard. So this would be Album #2512 if Uzun Hasan, struck sometime from 872 to 882 H; but might possibly be Ya'qub abu'l-Muzzafar, Album #2520, from 883 to 890 H, which also has the Sunni Kalima on the reverse. I will see if I can get a decent scan of the obverse, but I am already so much farther along than yesterday. Thanks again!

Mike

aws22

Thank you Milke, the ruler's name should be on the Obverse and it could be Ya'qub abu'l-Muzzafar; it all depends on reading the inscriptions on the other side of this coin.

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

Small change

Thank you again, dear Maythem! Now, first I am embarrassed and must apologize to everyone because this is a tanka, not a dinar.

Second, I now see what I take to be cursive script for al-Hisn at Zeno.ru, #55871 for example.

Third, the obverse of the coin in question is 2/3 weak and worn. I have played around with the scan exposure and contrast and the scan is still terrible but I post it with the hope that it may help with the ID. There are 5 or 6 lines of inscription, and only the left-most letters, the ends of the lines, show.

Mike

ArDinar_obv.jpg

aws22

Thank you Mike, this side of the coin is worn, it is not possible to read any text.

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".

Small change


Small change

Rabino's 1950 article about Ilkhanid successors shows legends for Aq Qoyunlu Sultan Hasan, most of which end with the Arabic for khalada alkh. What is meant to be preserved or perpetuated here? I see this legend at the bottom of this coin, non-Kalima side.

Thanks,
Mike

aws22

#8
Thank you Mike, similar to your coin with differnt mint is shown in this link with full details:
Aq Qoyunlu, Uzun Hasan (abu al-Nasr), Date?, Silver Tanka, Qumm mint (AH 857-882/1453-1478 AD)
Obverse (Second photo):
ضرب  , darb
السلطان الاعظم  , al-Sultan al-'Azam
حسن ابو  , Hasan abu
النصر بهادر  , al-Nasr Bahadur
..........
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/cyrus_coins/28/product/item_31177_aq_qoyunlu_persian_turkaman_hasan_ah_857882_ar_silver_tanka_qumm_mint_rare_mint_nd__album_2512_dauwe_214/1630479/Default.aspx

Maythem
Coin collecting has a curious name. It is also called the "Hobby of Kings".