Nawab of Arkat (Arcot). Mint Tirnelveli.

[cmerc]

Any ideas what this could be? I can see the zarb mintname, but can't read the mint name. Reverse shows (RY?) 37. Don't have the weight or size, unfortunately. Described as Mughal copper unit, so perhaps ~13 grams??

Thanks!
Avik

[Figleaf]

It looks to me that you have read everything except the mint and that there are sufficient letters above "zarb" to get at least an idea of what it could be ...

Peter

[asm]

I had requested Abhishek (abhinumis) to have a look and his reply is:

It is a Arkat nawab issue. On the obverse: The obverse is Zarb Tirnaveli. The reverse should be 137 - Which is supposedly an Abjad lettering for something.

Please re-check the weight. It should be around 3 g and not 13 as mentioned (Abhishek's view). He has sent me an image of his coin which I will post a little later.

Amit

[cmerc]

Thank you, Peter-ji and Amit-ji!

Tirnaveli (present day Tirunelveli?) makes sense, although I can barely read the mint name. Couldn't locate anything on Zeno, so was not sure what this could be. It was presented as an "Aurangzeb" unit, so the 13 grams is my guess weight. I ended up not getting the coin so can't provide the exact weight. My thanks to Abhishek as well.

[asm]

Thank you, Peter-ji and Amit-ji!

Tirnaveli (present day Tirunelveli?) makes sense, although I can barely read the mint name. Couldn't locate anything on Zeno, so was not sure what this could be. It was presented as an "Aurangzeb" unit, so the 13 grams is my guess weight. I ended up not getting the coin so can't provide the exact weight. My thanks to Abhishek as well.

Well, yes, It is the present day Tirunelveli.

For better help, here is Abhisheks coin. Hope the mint name is clear now.

Amit

[aws22]

Dear Amit, I think the number on right photo is the AH date:
Coins of India, Princely States, Nawabs of Arcot, Anonymous Copper Cash, Tirnaveli (Tirunelveli) Mint (AH 1296-1307/1879-1889 AD).
Obverse (First photo): Mint-name " Zarb Tirnaveli ضرب تيرناويلى ".
Reverse (Second photo): AH date in numbers " sanah 1307 ۱۳۰۷ سنه ",
Nawab, English nabob, deputy ruler, or viceroy, under the Mughal rule of India. The title was later adopted by the independent rulers of Bengal, Oudh (Ayodhya), and Arcot.
If the date is correct, then the Princes of Arcot during this period, are:
Nawab Intizam-ul-Mulk Muazzaluddaula Bahadur (1879-1889 AD)
Nawab Sir Muhammad Munawar Khan Bahadur (1889-1903 AD)

Maythem

[asm]

Dear Amit, I think the number on right photo is the AH date:
Maythem

I have no knowledge on this series. I relayed the message Abhishek sent me. However, if we are to assume that the numbers are a date - 1307, the two dots - one each to the left and right of the 1 are not accounted for.

Amit

[aws22]

Thank you Amit, I am comparing Avik's  coin with this one (Right photo):
Sanah 1207 or 1307 سنہ ۱۲۰۷,۱۳۰۷.
https://www.bombayauctions.com/viewlot.aspx?itemid=20552&auctionid=1027&lotno=634

Maythem

[asm]

In this coin the date is clearly 1307. No extra dots. This is a Madurai type issue with 'Wala'. A very different type. Unfortunately, my knowledge on these coins is zero and I am unable to give more information.

Amit

[aws22]

Thank you Amit.

Maythem

[KarlAntonMartini]

Here is a similiar coin. It has 2,51 g. Up to now I had it in my collection as KM (Arcot) 35. But is the inscription really Wala jah? I am not good in reading arabic letters, but it looks for me as a somewhat corrupted part of Alam Shah? The figures on reverse show 10307. So probably 1307 (= AD 1889/90), the first 0 added as decorative element by a medalist not educated in arabic script?  Tinnevelly (Tiruneveli) was sold from the Nawab of Arcot to EIC in 1801 and was afterwards a district of Madras Presidency. So I presume this coin being a private token made by Tinnevelly merchants. Thanks for any comment! Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

[aws22]

Dear KarlAntonMartini, your newly posted coin reads:
Coins of India, Princely States, Nawabs of Arcot, Anonymous Copper Cash, Tirnaveli (Tirunelveli) Mint (AH 1296-1307/1879-1889 AD).
Reverse (First photo): AH date in numbers sanah " 1307 ۱۳۰۷ سنه ".
Obverse (Second photo): Mint-name " Zarb Tirnaveli ضرب تيرناويلى ".
Nawab, English nabob, deputy ruler, or viceroy, under the Mughal rule of India. The title was later adopted by the independent rulers of Bengal, Oudh (Ayodhya), and Arcot.
For this date  " AH 1307 (= AD 1889/90) ", the Princes of Arcot during this period, are:
Nawab Intizam-ul-Mulk Muazzaluddaula Bahadur (1879-1889 AD)
Nawab Sir Muhammad Munawar Khan Bahadur (1889-1903 AD)
Tirunelveliتيرونلفلي) , تيرونيلڤلي) also known as Nellai and historically (during British rule) as Tinnevelly, is a major city in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu.
Tirunelveli is located 624 km southwest of the state capital Chennai.

Maythem

[krishna]

Dear KarlAntonMartini, your newly posted coin reads:
Coins of India, Princely States, Nawabs of Arcot, Anonymous Copper Cash, Tirnaveli (Tirunelveli) Mint (AH 1296-1307/1879-1889 AD).
Reverse (First photo): AH date in numbers sanah " 1307 ۱۳۰۷ سنه ".
Obverse (Second photo): Mint-name " Zarb Tirnaveli ضرب تيرناويلى ".
Nawab, English nabob, deputy ruler, or viceroy, under the Mughal rule of India. The title was later adopted by the independent rulers of Bengal, Oudh (Ayodhya), and Arcot.
For this date  " AH 1307 (= AD 1889/90) ", the Princes of Arcot during this period, are:
Nawab Intizam-ul-Mulk Muazzaluddaula Bahadur (1879-1889 AD)
Nawab Sir Muhammad Munawar Khan Bahadur (1889-1903 AD)
Tirunelveliتيرونلفلي) , تيرونيلڤلي) also known as Nellai and historically (during British rule) as Tinnevelly, is a major city in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu.
Tirunelveli is located 624 km southwest of the state capital Chennai.

Maythem

You indeed are an ocean of knowledge
Thanks a lot!!!!

[KarlAntonMartini]

Dear KarlAntonMartini, your newly posted coin reads:
Coins of India, Princely States, Nawabs of Arcot, Anonymous Copper Cash, Tirnaveli (Tirunelveli) Mint (AH 1296-1307/1879-1889 AD).
Reverse (First photo): AH date in numbers sanah " 1307 ۱۳۰۷ سنه ".
Obverse (Second photo): Mint-name " Zarb Tirnaveli ضرب تيرناويلى ".
Nawab, English nabob, deputy ruler, or viceroy, under the Mughal rule of India. The title was later adopted by the independent rulers of Bengal, Oudh (Ayodhya), and Arcot.
For this date  " AH 1307 (= AD 1889/90) ", the Princes of Arcot during this period, are:
Nawab Intizam-ul-Mulk Muazzaluddaula Bahadur (1879-1889 AD)
Nawab Sir Muhammad Munawar Khan Bahadur (1889-1903 AD)
Tirunelveliتيرونلفلي) , تيرونيلڤلي) also known as Nellai and historically (during British rule) as Tinnevelly, is a major city in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu.
Tirunelveli is located 624 km southwest of the state capital Chennai.

Maythem

Thank you very much for this precise help! Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

[aws22]

Thank you Krishna and KarlAntonMartini

Maythem