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Offline carpatic

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France silver - Herbert I denier of Maine
« on: November 10, 2021, 09:56:11 PM »
Hello. I hope that you could help me.
I have this from a lot of 17th century French coins, but this one looks older
Weight 1.89g. diameter 20mm
« Last Edit: November 11, 2021, 01:14:20 PM by carpatic »

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Re: France silve to ID - help needed
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2021, 11:15:51 AM »
With the coin in hand plus the pictures above - is it possible to make out any parts of the legend?
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: France silve to ID - help needed
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2021, 11:54:39 AM »
Good point, now that you have said this, I've actually tried, and then searched, and found this one
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48856.html
I still can't figure out the exact variant of the ones listed by Numista

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Re: France silve to ID - help needed
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2021, 11:58:28 AM »
carpatic got in before me while I was writing:

I think it is a denier of Maine in the name of Herbert I, 1015-1036, said by Numista to have been issued 1015-1246 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48856.html

I could read DEI VIVI on the reverse and searched on that, and the legend reads SIGNVM DEI VIVI.

Alan

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Re: France silve to ID - help needed
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2021, 12:56:24 PM »
I agree with the id. This is Boudeau 170, denier Herbert I, Maine.

Obv: cypher ErberTvS in pearl circle, +COMES CENOMANNIS around (Herbert, count of Maine)
Rev: short cross with two dots between upper arms and Ω (upside down) Α between lower arms. The two Greek letters stand for the beginning and the end (of life), all in a pearl circle. +SIGNVM DEI VIVI around (live sign of god)

Peter
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Re: France silve to ID - help needed
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2021, 01:13:35 PM »
Thank you Alan, Thank you Peter!

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Re: France silver - Herbert I denier of Maine
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2021, 03:12:18 PM »
I think +SIGNVM DEI VIVI should be 'sign of the living god', but perhaps I am nit-picking  ;D

Alan