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Offline Desibot

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Thoughts on this
« on: May 31, 2021, 04:12:20 PM »
Hi guys

Thoughts on this die ?


Thanks
Desibot

Offline Manzikert

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Re: Thoughts on this
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2021, 10:15:37 PM »
My guess would be a forger's die. An authentic one would be in steel (this appears brass from the colour), and would almost certainly be cylindrical not square.

A very nice thing to have whatever it is.

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Re: Thoughts on this
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 02:05:00 AM »
Hi
Manzikert I have searched high and low
Cant find any examples of british india
Coin dies online and there is lot of them from various periods
Maybe hiding in a vault or maybe destroyed 
I agree most dies I have seen are cylindrical in shape but also the
Counterfeiters ones are cylindrical too.

It's an interesting piece and would love to know how it is used in a machine/ hammered

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Re: Thoughts on this
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 02:13:50 AM »
Could it be a possible prototype ?

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Re: Thoughts on this
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 12:18:54 PM »
I agree with Manzikert: a tool to make imitations. They are far more common than real dies. Real dies are made of hardened steel. Brass is far too soft to be used as a die.

I think this is was used to make moulds for cast copies. The piece would be pressed into clay to form one side of the coin, which would be joined with a similarly made reverse. A casting canal would be formed by hand with a straw.

In India, there is great demand for imitations of coins, for jewellery, for wedding gifts, for religious ceremonies etc. This piece may well have been used by a jeweller and not for forgeries, as cast copies will lose a lot of detail and have the weight wrong.

Peter
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Re: Thoughts on this
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 10:08:21 PM »
Does this help?

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