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Offline mkm1968

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Arensburg Magnus (1560-1578) shilling
« on: March 30, 2021, 05:28:12 PM »
good time, please help with the identification of the coin, if possible. Photos were provided by a friend, there are no others. The hope of determining the direction of the search by the coat of arms, from the legend, practically nothing was left. I would be grateful for any help from people.
weight - 0, 71 grams. Size - 15 x16 mm
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Re: Definition of a medieval coin
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2021, 11:33:31 AM »
This one bugs me. It looks so identifiable. The arms could be Vienna or a minor Habsburg possession. I can read SI•CH(R?), which doesn't help much as it reminds me neither of a name nor of a title. Not medieval, as copper coins hadn't been invented yet and the arms are too well drawn. Not a single crown in sight!

Peter
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Re: Definition of a medieval coin
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2021, 09:37:41 AM »
I think I already saw this or something quite similar attributed to a Baltic state (?), but impossible to refind it on "my" French forum.
Diameter is ok for a solidus of Livonia around 1618 https://www.numismatique.com/forum/topic/7561-lettonie-1618-solidus-%C3%A9poque-polonaise/

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Re: Definition of a medieval coin
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2021, 01:50:51 PM »
Great! I can now read the legend on the first picture as MS.D.G. EPS.OSI ..., which would indicate a copper ferding (same root as farthing) of Magnus, by the grace of god bishop of Ösel (1560-1578). MS worries me somewhat, since Magnus is usually rendered as MA. The style is most like the Arensburg mint (to be confirmed by reconstructing the reverse legend; the alternative is Hapsal). There are quite a few of these coins on AC search.

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Re: Arensburg Magnus (1560-1578) shilling
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2021, 03:10:00 AM »
after all a shilling, ferdings were minted with a bust of a bishop