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Offline Galaico

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Nazi Token?
« on: October 20, 2020, 01:35:39 PM »
In the middle of a lot of tokens that I bought a while ago, this token(?) appeared and I still couldn't identify it.

23,16 mm
3,4 g


Can "Hailo Kampfjahr" be translated into "hello year of battle"?

I suspect it may be some kind of advertising token or membership token that has to do with the Nazi SS. The runes and the phrase "...year of battle" speak for themselves, and in 1938 they were very active in those dark times (World War II).

Does anyone have any idea what it might be?

In the meantime I found an identical token registration that went to auction in 2015 (WAG Online oHG Auction 56 - 6 September 2015, Lot 1746), but it doesn't add much ...
Here is the link:https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=1209&lot=1746

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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2020, 03:07:21 PM »
Hmm, World War II in Europe began a year later (1 September 1939) with Germany's attack on Poland. Don't think that "Kampfjahr" has anything to do with the war; it means something like "Year of Fight(ing)". May well be a connection to the SS or some other nazi organization.

The first word is hard to read, but "Hallo" would not make sense as the third and fourth characters are different. Could be "Hailo" or "Halco" ...

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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2020, 09:35:47 PM »
See number 741 of this Slovak auction, where this medal is identified as:

Medal of a youth organisation in the Sudetenland before the second world war based on SS.
Obv: horse tramples a snake, SS (runes)
Rev: around the centre: (runes), Hailo Kampfjahr 1938, (Schwabach)

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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2020, 12:03:01 AM »
I suspect that this is some kind of modern fantasy token made to be sold as "Nazi".

There are Hailo companies but they are recently founded.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2020, 12:57:24 AM »
In Germany there is a fairly old Hailo company, but even that was founded in 1947, not '38. They started with household "tools" such as ladders and trashcans. :)  Here is a topic (from 2006) in a German coin forum about the piece, but that does not really go anywhere either ...

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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2020, 04:17:41 PM »
See number 741 of this Slovak auction, where this medal is identified as:

Medal of a youth organisation in the Sudetenland before the second world war based on SS.
Obv: horse tramples a snake, SS (runes)
Rev: around the centre: (runes), Hailo Kampfjahr 1938, (Schwabach)

Peter

Peter, that information ends up going against what I initially suspected.
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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2020, 04:18:39 PM »
Thank's everyone, for your messages.

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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2020, 05:23:37 PM »
I gave the info as is. The auction dates from 2018, so you may want to consider contacting the auctioneer and ask where the info is coming from.

It is a plus for the information that the auctioneer is Slovak, therefore may have good access to local archives. However, there are also a few minuses. I got no relevant hits on Hailo plus Jugend. All the medals seem to have surfaced recently and the design is quite clumsy. It seems inspired by Goetz, but he would have done a much better job. There is the short, fat horse, the snake in the wrong place, the empty centre on the other side and most of all the clumsy runes that make the legend hard to read as well as the lack of capitalisation of Hailo and Kampfjahr.

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Re: Nazi Token?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2020, 10:04:02 PM »
I looked at the tail of the snake and it seems to show a "rattle".

The horse is trampling a rattlesnake; a scene used many times in American Western films.

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