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Offline maudry

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Civic copper of Kabul?
« on: June 09, 2020, 10:49:48 PM »
Hello,
I believe the mint should be Kabul?
The obverse is heavily off center.
Size: 17mm
Weight: 3.92gr

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Re: Civic copper of Kabul?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 10:18:15 AM »
Very strange coin... which legend in a square looks like a 10 tenga of Bukhara Emirate (Alim Khan) with a part of the word "falus" ( "sin" is wanted ) and "Bukhara" (last "alif" is wanted ?), however, the weight doesn't fit.
The reverse could well indicate a coin re-struck by an afghan mint (Kabul ?)
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Re: Civic copper of Kabul?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 01:12:32 PM »
The more I look at your coin, the more I think that we can forget  "Bukhara" : the " ra / ر " can't be placed as initial letter.
The legend could be rather "falus Rikab / فلوس ركاب " :a camp coin; may be the wanted parts of the text are in the lower erased part  ???
the "Rikab" mintname exists for both afghan and iranian  coins : "Rikab" alone or "mubarak Rikab"(afghan), or "zarrabkhane Rikab" (persian).

My guess is that yours could be  persian ? here is a very rare examplar from Mantis of a "Rikab falus"

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Re: Civic copper of Kabul?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2020, 09:02:54 PM »
Thank you Saro for having those close looks on my coins.
Looks like this is another mystery coin I have there.
As you suggest, I will classify it under Iran.
What makes you believe Iran is more probably? When I find an overstruck coin, I first think of Afghanistan - although there are also several examples from Iran.

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Re: Civic copper of Kabul?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2020, 08:43:32 AM »
I'm not sure of a persian origin... just a guess from the script style, and I wonder if the design of the host coin couldn't be an eagle as found on some persian civic coppers ?
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