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Offline mrbadexample

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QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« on: January 13, 2020, 01:03:02 AM »
Here's a link to a 1970 Captain Cook 50¢:

50 Cents - Elizabeth II (2nd Portrait - Captain Cook) - Australia – Numista

And here's mine:


When was the Machin portrait given eyelashes?  :o

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 06:18:45 AM »
Comparing the lines around the eye, I see no difference between your coin and the one on Numista. Either, you are jealous of the jump strike effect on nose and forehead of the Numista coin, or you were looking at the wrinkles on the forehead on your coin :D In any case, it's more dignified than this one. :)

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 04:01:17 PM »
No Peter, I mean eyelashes:


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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 04:02:21 PM »
They weren't there in 1966 (attached), nor are they present on the one linked to in Numista.  :-\

They are present in subsequent years which may suggest a change sometime in 1970. Perhaps the Numista coin is taken from a set - the issues may have been different.

I'd never noticed them before but I've been taking some new photos.
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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2020, 08:24:33 AM »
Great, MrT! So mrbadexample is on to something. Good! More research needed.

Peter
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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2020, 11:15:42 AM »
Thanks MrT. It's not the only modification to the Machin portrait that I've found recently. Look at this from the Isle of Man:


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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2020, 02:07:45 AM »
Yes I'm sure I read that modification were made during or after 1964 when it was first used.

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2020, 09:55:54 PM »
I'm still not sure what to think of that linked 1970 50c with no eyelashes - I can't find any other images of such a coin.
Maybe there are two very light eyelashes that didn't photograph well?

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2020, 10:38:11 PM »
I'm not convinced. The Numista photo is of sufficient quality that the eyelashes would be seen, I think.

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2020, 12:11:01 AM »
Agreed - some small number must have been produced with a different die.

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2020, 09:14:08 AM »
Anyone looked at this any more? Still not sure what is going on but I'm sure I've read that the 1969 50c piece has a different obverse and there is a double headed 50c with two different obverse designs too I think.

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2020, 08:35:50 AM »
Anyone looked at this any more? Still not sure what is going on but I'm sure I've read that the 1969 50c piece has a different obverse and there is a double headed 50c with two different obverse designs too I think.

I've not looked further Mister T, no. Too much gardening to be done at this time of year - numismatics is more my winter sport.

I'd like to know who turned my pictures sideways though.  :o

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 12:51:19 PM »
I need to look more closely too - I've got a friend with a couple of the specimens which I should take a look at.

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Re: QEII - Arnold Machin portrait.
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2021, 09:33:54 AM »
Anyone seen one without the eye lashes? I've looked at a few and they all seem to have eye lashes.