Author Topic: A Bulgarian coin?  (Read 225 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ZYV

  • Meritorious Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 753
A Bulgarian coin?
« on: January 07, 2020, 08:49:02 AM »
 16x17.3 mm
I see:
A/: Standing figure with raised hand.
R/: ... M../ ЦР[Ь].
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

Offline Figleaf

  • Administrator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29 996
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2020, 10:27:08 AM »
He hasn't been around for some time, but a PM to Zantetsuken may help.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Offline ZYV

  • Meritorious Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 753
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2020, 11:06:12 AM »
Thank you for the advice, dear Figleaf!
---------------
Please tell, what do you think about this token?
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,47575.0.html
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

Offline ZYV

  • Meritorious Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 753
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 12:08:59 PM »
1.01 g
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

Offline Quant.Geek

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2 826
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 02:39:57 PM »
Correct.  There are several variations  of that particular coin, depending on the obverse and the monogram on the reverse.  Here are some of mine for comparison:

Bulgaria: Ivan Sracimir (1356-1397) Æ Trachy, Vidin (Youroukova & Penchev-119; Raduchev & Zhekov Type 1.14.14-15)

Obv: Half-length bust of Christ facing, orans.
Rev: Monograms across field.




A gallery of my coins can been seen at FORVM Ancient Coins

Offline ZYV

  • Meritorious Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 753
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 05:25:39 PM »
Thank you for the information, dear Quant.Geek!


But my coin looks like as an imitation.
Let's compare portraits.
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

Offline Quant.Geek

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2 826
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2020, 06:27:38 PM »
As I said, there are variations with very degraded portraits of Christ.  I don't have Dochev in front of me to give you a more accurate attribution, but they all fall within the same type...
A gallery of my coins can been seen at FORVM Ancient Coins

Offline ZYV

  • Meritorious Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 753
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2020, 06:50:40 PM »
Do you have information about weights of these coins?
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

Offline Quant.Geek

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2 826
Re: A Bulgarian coin?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 07:37:51 PM »
Dochev does a better job in classifying differences  in these coins as the monogram varies as well as the portrait of Christ.  Unfortuantely, my copy of Dochev is boxed up in storage at the moment and thus I can't give you a precise attributions.  I do have Raduchev & Zhekov and they indicate it is about 1.1 to 1.0 g with a size of 18 to 17 mm.  Mine are 18mm and 0.5g to 18mm and 1.24 g. So they vary as the strikes are poor and the flan is thin...
A gallery of my coins can been seen at FORVM Ancient Coins