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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2020, 03:30:06 PM »
The last coin was done by an anonymous artist in Bristol using the nickname Minty Mcfarthing. More on that can be found here.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2020, 05:23:04 PM »
Thanks for posting the pics of these three coins, eurocoin. Looks like there's the beginning of a cottage industry in the UK. While it's interesting, I don't think they'll have much influence in changing minds. The Troubles related coins probably didn't either, but there were so many thousands struck and circulated that it certainly influenced the government to ban them. Time will tell though.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2020, 06:10:47 PM »
Sorry, but I forgot to ask. Do you know what the "Con" in "Brxt / Con" stands for?

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2020, 08:25:18 PM »
It's a shortening of "Conned"

ie. Swindle / Defraud / Cheat / Deceive
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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2020, 10:06:53 PM »
It's a shortening of "Conned"

ie. Swindle / Defraud / Cheat / Deceive
Got it. Thank you.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2020, 08:03:08 AM »
It's a shortening of "Conned"

ie. Swindle / Defraud / Cheat / Deceive

Originally a shortening of "confidence" - a "con man" is a confidence trickster. From that comes the verb "to con" = to defraud in that way, and the noun "con", an instance of this.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2020, 12:22:16 PM »
Here's a new example just seen on eBay offered by someone in Cardigan. I doubt this circulated at all, so may be made for "the market" I expect there are others examples.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2020, 04:27:59 PM »
That's dated 2020 - is it on an actual Brexit coin?

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2020, 06:28:55 PM »
Yes, it's a 50p. When would the coins dated 2020 be released for circulation? The piece looks brand new to me.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2020, 06:44:21 PM »
Yes, it's a 50p. When would the coins dated 2020 be released for circulation? The piece looks brand new to me.

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The Brexit 50p is the only 2020 dated coin out at present. 
It will be a nice surprise if there are any other 2020 coins to be found in change....!
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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2020, 06:59:11 PM »
Here's a picture of the reverse.

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2020, 07:57:24 PM »
Yes, that's the Brexit coin. The choice of host for that particular message won't have been random  ;)

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2020, 09:20:06 AM »
I think that's the only Brexit 50p I would be trying to get in my collection.  I've not come across any in the wild - that's probably due to having only used coins once in the last 4 months!!  Either way, I'd be very torn if I got one of those in change as what does one do with a coin that represents something that one finds so hateful and negative?  That said, I do have some 1933-1945 German coins in my collection and I guess this would end up falling in the same type of category for me - i.e. we're collectors, not necessarily judges/arbiters of what is right/wrong...

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2020, 09:40:00 AM »
As they’ve defaced the obverse rather than the reverse, to me it’s as though they’re trying to portray the Queen as having that attitude!  The reverse has largely been left unscathed, as though whoever did this can’t actually disagree with its sentiment...

I have enough of these from my Strike Your Own Coin visit on 31 January, and as I haven’t used cash in almost four months (and don’t plan to again), the likelihood of me getting a Brexit coin in change is nil!

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Re: Countermarks related to European integration
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2020, 09:52:49 AM »
I wondered as well why someone clearly opposed to Brexit would deface the non-Brexit side, but I reckon it's just a case of practicality - it's probably easier to read the slogan if punched over the Queen's head than over other text.

As to having this coin in my collection (with or without countermark) - it is a bona fide coin of a country I collect, so yes, I would like one if I come across one even though my view coincides with the that of the counterstamper. But I'd rather have a genuinely circulation example as opposed to a BU in a pack.