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Offline artsmith

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Andrew Menzies counterstamped token
« on: November 03, 2019, 08:30:54 AM »
Andrew Menzies City Omnibus token from Glasgow, Scotland. Copper. 28mm x 18mm. It would seem to be Smith 420 G except for the counterstamp. The only counterstamped token in either Smith or Breingan, is one with a "P" stamped over the 2d to denote a penny fare. Any ideas about this counterstamp?

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Re: Andrew Menzies counterstamped token
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 02:36:15 PM »
I'd say there are only two possibilities, in view of how the counterstamp was carefully applied, which rules out a rate change:
  • someone trying out his new punch
  • some kind of advertisement or propaganda

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Re: Andrew Menzies counterstamped token
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 10:38:27 PM »
I think the Smiths were incorrect about the P as P wasn't used to denote penny until the 1970s decimalisation. It would have been a 1 stamp otherwise.

Perhaps it means Partick?

Your counterstamp looks like a bomb or an apple ???
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Re: Andrew Menzies counterstamped token
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 10:50:28 PM »
I noted how you (Art) just added another counterstamp here.

As for the p counterstamp, it occurred to me that an upside down p is a d.

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Re: Andrew Menzies counterstamped token
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 10:57:06 PM »
The "C" counterstamp on the Busby Liverpool token is listed in the Smith catalog. It is not one I have added or seen. I did add the picture of the uncounterstamped Busby token.



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Re: Andrew Menzies counterstamped token
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 11:02:51 PM »
Yes Malcolm, it could be an apple. Maybe to try to get the horses to go faster.

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